[Ch3] Bpoop Phaeh Saniwaat (Broadcast Thai) : Pope Thanawat / Bella Ranee

Rosi

Wifey #42
I actually like Weir and think he's perfect for Bella...they look good together too...but for on screen that can maybe never happen. Pope for me is Bella's best leading man til now. And vice versa. Their chemistry together is no joke. So I wanted her with two best leading man of her life...real and reel.
Weir & Bella, I guess is a love story for real - and just like there Por Date & Kade, there's some beautiful photos of them together.
 

Chario mintmario

sarNie Adult
Someone sang a cover of the theme song in Khmer. Not bad, his voice is a little softer than Ice’
What I love about this khmer version is how good it is rhymed. The translation is really nice. It's so meaningful like the original version. Love love it...No comment about the singing coz it does not sound as a professional cover that was recorded in a proper studio.
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Poor Janward that people think she is a bad character. Lol...at first people in Thai also said the same but somehow it is changed after 8 episodes (after her story with Reung started). Her character is actually well loved now in Thai on twitter and IG..:love:

First of all, Janward is a hi-so noble woman. She is a bit arrogant at least to Kade. Coz Kaderakade was bad to her too. But she is gradually warming up to Kade since she is not the same woman anymore. At the end of the day, Janward and Kade become good friends.

Second, she had a crash on Date. Dad as well was having infatuation with Janward. It was reciprocal. If you notice, it was always Date that stared (Chamoi Chaita :risas3:) her first. When she noticed, she replied him with her chamoi chaita too. It's not fair to blame her.

Third, her father and mostly her mother encouraged her to visit Khunying Jumpa. Everyone at Date's household loves her. When she knew there is no way Date will love her. She rebelled with her mom and withdraw herself from the mess.

Forth, she is human after all. That's what the director and script writer want to show (Prang gave an interview about it). So she can love someone and express love in her own way. Her lying to her mom was influenced by Kade who is a modern woman. Kade also influenced Rueng to spy around Janward's house. I find it adorable how Kade is able to bring modernity to these Ayuttaya's people.

What made people feel she plotted something bad coz it's in the mindset of Thai lakorn viewers who always feel there should be a n'rai in a lakorn. Janward was just supposed to be an elegant, lady-like, arrogant at some points but without bad intention. So don't think too deep..
 

Rosi

Wifey #42
What I love about this khmer version is how good it is rhymed. The translation is really nice. It's so meaningful like the original version. Love love it...No comment about the singing coz it does not sound as a professional cover that was recorded in a proper studio.
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Poor Janward that people think she is a bad character. Lol...at first people in Thai also said the same but somehow it is changed after 8 episodes (after her story with Reung started). Her character is actually well loved now in Thai on twitter and IG..:love:

First of all, Janward is a hi-so noble woman. She is a bit arrogant at least to Kade. Coz Kaderakade was bad to her too. But she is gradually warming up to Kade since she is not the same woman anymore. At the end of the day, Janward and Kade become good friends.

Second, she had a crash on Date. Dad as well was having infatuation with Janward. It was reciprocal. If you notice, it was always Date that stared (Chamoi Chaita :risas3:) her first. When she noticed, she replied him with her chamoi chaita too. It's not fair to blame her.

Third, her father and mostly her mother encouraged her to visit Khunying Jumpa. Everyone at Date's household loves her. When she knew there is no way Date will love her. She rebelled with her mom and withdraw herself from the mess.

Forth, she is human after all. That's what the director and script writer want to show (Prang gave an interview about it). So she can love someone and express love in her own way. Her lying to her mom was influenced by Kade who is a modern woman. Kade also influenced Rueng to spy around Janward's house. I find it adorable how Kade is able to bring modernity to these Ayuttaya's people.

What made people feel she plotted something bad coz it's in the mindset of Thai lakorn viewers who always feel there should be a n'rai in a lakorn. Janward was just supposed to be an elegant, lady-like, arrogant at some points but without bad intention. So don't think too deep..
Well, okay, it does look like we've ganged up on Janward haha. But the thing is we came into the story with Kadesurang, with no idea whatsoever that Mae Karakade was a monster before her. We only saw her as a mean thing forcing her maid to upset somebody's boat, and the whole family readily went ahead with something as sacred as the mantra to get to the truth. You must agree, sending spirits out to punish someone is already not a nice thing to do - when someone does bad, we don't do the same thing, right? We didn't, I mean at least I, I didn't understand then why she should be hated so bad at the time when Kade woke up on MK's bed. It's like there's this whole nest of vipers around her, ready to pounce and hate. So maybe there's a history of dislike between Janward & MK, but here too if you're a NICE person you would have gotten a way around it without being rude, cold. Because she's supposed to be the angel of Ayuthayya and we sort of expect a sweet persona at all times.

But the matter here is the way she moves in subtle ways to be with Date under the guise of that virtuous persona - for those certain things she did. I guess we should blame her parents, blame Mae Jumpa, for encouraging her, blame Date too for giving those signals.
 

Rosi

Wifey #42
Well, okay, it does look like we've ganged up on Janward haha. But the thing is we came into the story with Kadesurang, with no idea whatsoever that Mae Karakade was a monster before her. We only saw her as a mean thing forcing her maid to upset somebody's boat, and the whole family readily went ahead with something as sacred as the mantra to get to the truth. You must agree, sending spirits out to punish someone is already not a nice thing to do - when someone does bad, we don't do the same thing, right? We didn't, I mean at least I, I didn't understand then why she should be hated so bad at the time when Kade woke up on MK's bed. It's like there's this whole nest of vipers around her, ready to pounce and hate. So maybe there's a history of dislike between Janward & MK, but here too if you're a NICE person you would have gotten a way around it without being rude, cold. Because she's supposed to be the angel of Ayuthayya and we sort of expect a sweet persona at all times.

But the matter here is the way she moves in subtle ways to be with Date under the guise of that virtuous persona - for those certain things she did. I guess we should blame her parents, blame Mae Jumpa, for encouraging her, blame Date too for giving those signals.
Well the certain things which we mentioned she did, that isn't exactly the behaviour of a virtuous girl.

But I'm glad we have this discussion! Because it goes to show we look at the BPS people as real people & that is the true success of a good production of cast & crew!
 

hdee

sarNie Juvenile
I used to dream of Bella and Weir leading a drama alongside each other - even if cross-channel collab is allowed. But not anymore, lol. I realised I can't stand watching real life couples act as romantic onscreen couples.
I've figured too that Pope and Bella are my favourite as onscreen couples - and off the cam, they have a really great and comfortable friendly relationship. And that's just enough. Sometimes it still surprises me to see so many popular onscreen couples with awesome chemistry stay only as friends irl.
I'm actually a bit conflicted too about wanting to see them together...I want to watch them interact in real life to see their chemistry......but in a drama maybe not...
In all my years of watching thai dramas I don't think I ever seen any OTP have as much chemistry on screen as AnneT and Ken....only Pope and Bella came close....I heard about Kob and Num but I don't see it....maybe I've not watched the right dramas....and even though I heard good stuff about it, for me they both looked soo awkward in DaoPrasook.
And yes the secret to good chemistry usually is great off cam relationship.

@bold.....There's an Indian drama OTP who are super popular because of their sizzling hot chemistry in their show which aired in 2011. They were both attached to other people before the show began. The lead guy was married to his college sweetheart and the lead girl was in a 7 year relationship with another actor(she's married to him now). First time I watched their BTS...I almost died laughing......coz their real life chemistry was totally opposite of the screen chemistry. They were like a couple of naughty kids.......messing with each other....pulling each others hair....throwing water on each other.....making funny faces when the other was giving his take. There were other actors in the cast and they are all good friends til now. They still get together for dinner and go on holidays together.
 

Rosi

Wifey #42
I don't know if this is true or not, but Kade actually landed into one of the most elite of the influential & rich families of the Ayuthaya era. If she's got Khun Loong the Court Writer as her adopted uncle, and he's close pals with the likes of Pechtracha, Por Duer, Khun Rheung (at his later noble title), Sri Yot, Kosa Ban, Kosa Lek, etc & even King Narai then it's a very big thing that has happened to her. They downplayed a lot that Por Date is just a hero of the story but if his name was ever mentioned as envoy & part of the entourage to France then it's a real person & he should be famously historic too. Wonder if that is?
 

hdee

sarNie Juvenile
I don't know if this is true or not, but Kade actually landed into one of the most elite of the influential & rich families of the Ayuthaya era. If she's got Khun Loong the Court Writer as her adopted uncle, and he's close pals with the likes of Pechtracha, Por Duer, Khun Rheung (at his later noble title), Sri Yot, Kosa Ban, Kosa Lek, etc & even King Narai then it's a very big thing that has happened to her. They downplayed a lot that Por Date is just a hero of the story but if his name was ever mentioned as envoy & part of the entourage to France then it's a real person & he should be famously historic too. Wonder if that is?
They did mention Date was real person.....they did a drama character-real life person video someone posted it too...But I think they just mentioned he was part of the diplomat entourage.
 

Rosi

Wifey #42
They did mention Date was real person.....they did a drama character-real life person video someone posted it too...But I think they just mentioned he was part of the diplomat entourage.
Oh? Then will look it up!! Thanks!

But on a sad note I doubt if THAT Por Date will look anything like OUR Khun P. Because Kadesurang was in ecstacies studying about Kosa Ban & his supposed picture with the tall hat up on the projector screen. And then in the movie our Kosa Ban walked in - and isn't he hott.
 

Chario mintmario

sarNie Adult
Well the certain things which we mentioned she did, that isn't exactly the behaviour of a virtuous girl.

But I'm glad we have this discussion! Because it goes to show we look at the BPS people as real people & that is the true success of a good production of cast & crew!
They did describe her character as a Hi-So lady. By this word "Hi-so" alone, it means a lot. It's far from being an angel or super sweet in my opinion as a lakorn lover.

Hi-so = Rich, High-class, Elegant, Arrogant...so it is justified why some are not fond of her character. Her arrogance alone already made people feel she is two-faced while she is not. And I think Prang portrays this character well enough to make many people talk about her.

Hi-so girls in today world are those driving sport car, using chanel bag and brand clothes, always in heels and full make up, wear sun glasses, with bodyguards, study in international school or are sent abroad etc...:risas3:

Part of her character is a virtuous lady too. For example, how she speaks, how she walks, how she makes those jasmine bands, how she does the fruit carving, her tone of speaking, and even the way she scolds Kade sounds soft...hahaha...and Thai viewers love it how she made the phrase "It's none of your business" sounds so lady-like and gentle. :pancarta:
 
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Weir & Bella, I guess is a love story for real - and just like there Por Date & Kade, there's some beautiful photos of them together.
To be honest, did saw their photo together before but I didn’t see any spark or overflowing chemistry between them YET (maybe they prefer not to showing off). Anwyay, they’re indeed a beautiful and good looking couple. Peace.
 

Rosi

Wifey #42
I was rewatching the behind the scenes and this crossed my mind.

If only Pope's voice did not crack during this take, this pull in that he did would've been so much better. So smexy!!
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I mean just look at the difference. Pope and his awkward hand. Hahaha. I can't take my eyes off that awkward hand.
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Phatman I no longer know what to say about you. All the little itsy bitsy details haha his awkward hand. Someone better photoshop!
 

Rosi

Wifey #42
Ok... little eye-candy gift of Pope before I go to sleep...

The list continues. Lol

9) His biting habit... sounds naughty yeah? Hehehe
It’s actually really cute and PG (sort of). He bites his fingers or his lips at events or shows... maybe nerves but so cute....especially lip biting part

Did you notice it too or I am just becoming an AMAZING Pope stalker? :risas3::risas3::risas3:

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You ARE becoming an AMAZING Pope stalker but no one's going to complain so go on! You make my day! He's very cute isn't he? Especially in that 4th picture.
 
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