Question. Why is the thread on spicy forum closed? Come on.
I wasn’t going to respond to anything involved, but now that the topic is closed, the idea that opinions should be suppressed simply b/c they offend some people is bothering me even more. This is might be uncalled for, but heck, it’s intellectually tempting so I’ll go at it anyway.
Okay, I don't know what's the deal here with spicy or/and sarnworld, or whatever it is because I still consider myself very new here. Whatever it is, frankly I don't care.
I think it is a great thing that many ppl want spicy to come back. It must mean that spicy administrators did a god job running the forum and thereby the forum became a special place in some people’s internet world.
But I can't stand it when I witness "the tyranny of the majority" suppressing the opinions of a minority. (Following from the closed thread) Just because one person decides not to conform with the larger group, doesn't make his or her opinions less valid. What happened to freedom of speech? This is a discussion forum. If we decide not to look at everyone’s opinions equally objectively, how can we get or come close to getting an accurate perspective of what the heck is really going on here. Who knows, there might be people who agree with (following from the closed thread) iheartvi’s opinions but are afraid to express them b/c it seems publicly futile given that there are so many ppl already disagreeing with him/her.
I’ve been to spicy before. Like butterfly123 said, they speak the truth and they pride themselves of it. So if anything, I think iheartvi’s choice to express his/her opinion by calling them bitches is exactly the kind of truthful and blunt response they’d rather take. I may be wrong and we may all be basing our opinions on different things… Like for instance, I’m not even addressing the plagiarism/creditability issue. And of course, if this whole offence is about iheartvi’s choice of words, yeah the word bitch is harsh, but how is the word butthead used by ceda-lee any better. Sure, some may come back and argue why there’s a difference btw the two words… but my point is… words such a bitch, buthead, idiots,.. all have too broad of a meaning.. some ppl use them everyday without thinking how it might offend others and others may be more polite…but when it all comes down to it, it depends on the individuality of the person using those words and the significance of the words arousing different degrees of reaction from different people. My point. Sometimes the truth hurts, but it’s exactly the kinds of pain we have to endure to get to it—the truth I mean. (basing my argument on Mill’s On Liberty). And by that, I mean, what is really at issue here... that people can’t accept the fact that there are those who disagree…my point is just that iheartvi’s rude expression is frankly another step towards getting to another certain truth…for instance…why exactly has spicy gone offline? Is it plagiarism issue or is it more than that? Or why have they not even bothered to come to sarnworld and address the concerns of those who oh so care and miss them so much? … Whatever the answer, my point is that all opinions, minor or major, positive or negative, are details that needs to be considered equally valid. Opinions are the building blocks for an accurate consensus. It is one thing to disagree, but to suppress is another. ( mean come on, everyone in that thread was practicing conformity. Is that really productive? Sometimes, being productive means disagreeing. You can’t just close the thread or end the conservation..That’s not how issues are resolved)
My whole response is probably unnecessary b/c I’m really indifferent to the main issue at point regarding spicy forum. But like I said, it pisses me off to see the “tyranny of the majority� at work. You guys can disagree with people, but trying to convince that person not to express his/her opinions is flat out rejecting any considerations for objectivity. You want the truth, you have to hear everyone out to come to the most accurate conclusion. Just let it ALL out, be it nice or rude.
But maybe I’m being too rational by not taking in to account the more emotional aspects of the argument. Like KhoOnxNouxWanxJai mentioned about (from the closed thread) sarnworld and spicy being sisters and if spicy disconnected from sarnworld, sarnworld would be dead? Well to that, it would be unreasonable for them to justify their disconnections simply because of one stupid (yeah I just insulted the person I’m supposedly defending) and rude response wouldn’t it. To “punish� the whole group because of one member.
It may be impossible for everyone to agree b/c like I said, the bases of everyone’s argument and opinions are always different—that’s why conflicts are so hard to resolve—b/c priorities are also different. For me for instance… I just hate any suppression of ideas and thoughts…
Nothing personal. I’d just rather play the devil’s advocate and this, I find, intellectually stimulating. Perhaps, reopen the thread and not keep things under the current? Freedom of speech and freedom of the press people.
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or until someone openly complains about it being open;
