[Ch3] Bpoop Phaeh Saniwaat (Broadcast Thai) : Pope Thanawat / Bella Ranee

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He said that regardless of what Kade thinks or is thinking, she won't be able to escape from him and that he won't allow it.

In other words, he's not giving up on her and he won't let her go, despite whatever it is that she is going through right now. He's not backing down. So dreamy :aaaaa:
LOL if we didn't know what kind of person Por Date is, what he's saying would come across as being a jerk. But nope, it's spazz-worthy coming from him.

Thanks for translation! I figured it was something along those lines.
 

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Ok so am I the only one who feel bad for Karakade? Sure she was a b***h and thats the reason she die but damn...we all have been a b***h once in our life right? Lol

I'm still rooting for Kade ans Por Date but if I look from Karakade POV its sad because she grew up bitter and bullied. She turned evil and violent from her environment. She fell in love with Por Date and although she was a b***h, she was loyal to him and never looked at another man.

Yea she done evil thing that can't be forgotten but can be forgiven thru the merits that Kade is doing for her. Even though she's dead, all those feelings she invested into Por Date won't just disappear right away. So I understand why she is feeling sad, angry and hateful toward Kade. But then we all know what Karakade will do later so I'm not mad toward her. I hope she will find peace and be reborn into a loving family who will teach her the meaning of love and guide her well in life so she won't be bitter anymore.

Its sad again that Kade and Karakade can't be together in once lifetime. KARMA is just tooooo complicated!!!
Yeah, we all have that side of being mean or b**tchy. But she wasn't just a b***tch she was abusive and the mastermind of a murder. That's far from being a b***tch. I think it's a bit up in the air regarding why Karagade is evil--just our speculations about her roots, but nothing really confirmed. Her parents were rich though, so they must not be all that bad and considering her dad is friends with the uncle (no way would someone like him befriend an evil person, right?). That's just my thoughts...we don't have to agree and I respect yours :)
 

WeirFany

sarNie Adult
@pangiaxiong i do see your pov, agree in a sense too. As evil as she was, she probably grew up spoiled with no proper teaching from her own parents if they let her act the way she has up until she went to go stay with Por Date their family...continued with the evil ways. (Anyone wants evil...def read up on Got's character) But back on track...Karakade is probably thinking like "I asked you to help them see the good in me, not go ahead and steal the man I was trying to have all to myself when I was still alive." As bad as she is, it's not wrong for her to feel betrayed. Even though on his end there was no love, by agreement of the Dads of his and hers...technically they are each others "fiancees" willingly and not willingly...they were set to be wife and husband.
 

pangiaxiong

sarNie Adult
Yeah, we all have that side of being mean or b**tchy. But she wasn't just a b***tch she was abusive and the mastermind of a murder. That's far from being a b***tch. I think it's a bit up in the air regarding why Karagade is evil--just our speculations about her roots, but nothing really confirmed. Her parents were rich though, so they must not be all that bad and considering her dad is friends with the uncle (no way would someone like him befriend an evil person, right?). That's just my thoughts...we don't have to agree and I respect yours :)
I understand your thought on that and repect it. But she is getting her karma for her sins therefor I'm not mad at her anymore. You can forgive a person but you don't have to forget what they've done.
 

pangiaxiong

sarNie Adult
@pangiaxiong i do see your pov, agree in a sense too. As evil as she was, she probably grew up spoiled with no proper teaching from her own parents if they let her act the way she has up until she went to go stay with Por Date their family...continued with the evil ways. (Anyone wants evil...def read up on Got's character) But back on track...Karakade is probably thinking like "I asked you to help them see the good in me, not go ahead and steal the man I was trying to have all to myself when I was still alive." As bad as she is, it's not wrong for her to feel betrayed. Even though on his end there was no love, by agreement of the Dads of his and hers...technically they are each others "fiancees" willingly and not willingly...they were set to be wife and husband.
Thanks hun...I agreed with your thoughts. People are saying she doesn't have a right to be angry that Por Date love Kade and not her. Or Por Date isnt her to begin with and you made a point toward the end there. As bad as she is, they were set to be each other spouses so being angry is no surprise but doing the right thing at the end is what's important and Karakade will do that later on.
 

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I understand your thought on that and repect it. But she is getting her karma for her sins therefor I'm not mad at her anymore. You can forgive a person but you don't have to forget what they've done.
I used to think like that until really bad things happened to my loved ones. I can't forgive people so easily now--if they get their karma, I don't forgive just like that, I'd be like yep, you deserve it. I would only forgive if they truly understand their mistake and move forward to doing the right thing. Learn from their mistake because if you make the same mistake over and over again, I'd take it as you're doing it intentionally now.

But good thing Karagade does learn and change her behavior so it's all good. :thumbup:
 
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Chario mintmario

sarNie Adult
Ok so am I the only one who feel bad for Karakade? Sure she was a b***h and thats the reason she die but damn...we all have been a b***h once in our life right? Lol

I'm still rooting for Kade ans Por Date but if I look from Karakade POV its sad because she grew up bitter and bullied. She turned evil and violent from her environment. She fell in love with Por Date and although she was a b***h, she was loyal to him and never looked at another man.

Yea she done evil thing that can't be forgotten but can be forgiven thru the merits that Kade is doing for her. Even though she's dead, all those feelings she invested into Por Date won't just disappear right away. So I understand why she is feeling sad, angry and hateful toward Kade. But then we all know what Karakade will do later so I'm not mad toward her. I hope she will find peace and be reborn into a loving family who will teach her the meaning of love and guide her well in life so she won't be bitter anymore.

Its sad again that Kade and Karakade can't be together once in a lifetime. KARMA is just tooooo complicated!!!
U are not the only one, dear. I thought i'm the only one that feel bad for Karakade. Though the drama or book didn't tell us how Karakade was raised but there are a lot of hints that showed Karakade was growing up in an abusive environment. Pin and Yam mentioned people took some of Karakade jewelry. She has no one in her family (dad, mom, grandparents). Don't know when they all passed away but for sure she has only herself and her two servants. She is a daughter of Praya Ramnarong from Meung Songkwae. Everyone (eg: Janward's mom) looks down on her because her father status is low and he is not from Ayuthya. Her survival strategy made her become aggressive. In ep 9, Pin and Yam mentioned that Karakade used to tell them that "everything that is going to happen will happen no matter what"...I know this is simple but it shows that she at least has this kind of conversation with her servants.

We'll see more of her good sides in later episodes. It's gonna be heartwarming to see the bonding of Kade and Karakade.
 

Pooh4ever

sarNie Adult
Just started this lakorn two days ago and it was an instinct love. This is my first boran since I've only seen modern lakorns, and my first lakorn in a very long time too. Pope and Bella is a surprisingly well-matched paring, both in visual and acting ability. Which brings the question of why do ch3 relied so much in the concept of koojin when this lakorn here proven that two non-koojin actors can create amazing chemistry as well. Sigh...

I also enjoy the history part of the story as well. I didn't know Thailand, France, and Portugal had such an alliance and commercial/trade relationship, but then again the European was a part of pretty much every country in the world history.

Anyways I don't know if I'll stick around to gossip with you gals, but just want to thank all the subbers for subbing and providing international fans like moi a change to watch this amazing lakorn. I still don't understand why Thailand is so restricted in the expansion of their cinema internationally. We have Korea, China, even Japan production available pretty much everywhere, but it's like digging a hole to China trying to find subtitles for one Thai drama. Again, just stopping by to thank all the amazing subbers!

I'm typing this really fast so sorry for any mistakes or grammar errors.
 

spanky

sarNie OldFart
Being spoil is an explanation not an excuse. She's a bitch all her life. Kade is loved and spoiled..
She's not a bitch...

She's an abusive bitch with muderous intent...a psychopath... sorry no sympathy....PERSONAL RESPONSIBILITY. YOU reap what you sow.. she still selfish as a ghost claiming pk...

Nk defends herself fine w/o beating ppl up. The dad was always kind. N'k won their hearts and fought back...

She envoke fear like those dictators...use violences 2 control ppl...

It takes 2 to tango... she didn't try to socialize And stayed in her room and she also looked down on ppl.....with these logic the other deserve symphathy as well...and their behavior is excuse like her's
 
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Being spoil is an explanation not an excuse. She's a bitch all her life. Kade is loved and spoiled..
She's not a bitch...

She's an abusive bitch with muderous intent...a psychopath... sorry no sympathy....PERSONAL RESPONSIBILITY. YOU reap what you sow.. she still selfish as a ghost claiming pk...

Nk defends herself fine w/o beating ppl up. The dad was always kind. N'k won their hearts and fought back...

She envoke fear like those dictators...use violences 2 control ppl...
So much passion in your post lol! Yep, I agree with everything you said spanky. On another note, oh gosh that reminds me when you talked about Kade being loved and spoiled!!!! You guys I forgot about what Kade really looks like lol we haven't seen her with those dorky glasses in a long time wahhhhh it's really becoming a reality that she's staying for good in the past. I saw photo on IG with Bella in her "fat suit" not really fat lol makes me miss present Reung too.
 

WeirFany

sarNie Adult
Such aggressive language lol I don't think anyone is using her spoiled nature as an excuse, everyone just used it as the only explanation bc again there's no full back story of her upbringing. She's a horrible being indeed, no excusable...no one is excusing her. But just simply saying in her mindset and her perception of life in her eyes when she was alive till now, it's not wrong for her to feel betrayed (not making her actions right)...just understanding why she could feel that pain.

Both Kade and Karakade were spoiled respectively...unfortunately, not the same outcome it seems.

Again...in this drama she was def the n'rai and as viwers, most don't feel like she should even have the right to feel the way she does in this episode which is understandable as well.

With the knowledge of Por Deur...I can't look at Got in this drama the same anymore :(....such a dirty, bad, evil history. (Though he is still fionee as heck)

Sidenote--the guy who plays the uncle to Janward, he is soooo handsome in my eyes too. He's quite older but there's a certain charm to him...and have you seen his arms in the shirt off scenes during the political scenes with the king?? WOWWW
 

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With the knowledge of Por Deur...I can't look at Got in this drama the same anymore :(....such a dirty, bad, evil history. (Though he is still fionee as heck)
Lol what did he do? I haven’t seen today’s episode! I love reading reviews they’re just as fun as watching the lakorn itself hehehe :p
 

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Such aggressive language lol I don't think anyone is using her spoiled nature as an excuse, everyone just used it as the only explanation bc again there's no full back story of her upbringing. She's a horrible being indeed, no excusable...no one is excusing her. But just simply saying in her mindset and her perception of life in her eyes when she was alive till now, it's not wrong for her to feel betrayed (not making her actions right)...just understanding why she could feel that pain.

Both Kade and Karakade were spoiled respectively...unfortunately, not the same outcome it seems.

Again...in this drama she was def the n'rai and as viwers, most don't feel like she should even have the right to feel the way she does in this episode which is understandable as well.

With the knowledge of Por Deur...I can't look at Got in this drama the same anymore :(....such a dirty, bad, evil history. (Though he is still fionee as heck)

Sidenote--the guy who plays the uncle to Janward, he is soooo handsome in my eyes too. He's quite older but there's a certain charm to him...and have you seen his arms in the shirt off scenes during the political scenes with the king?? WOWWW
I can't look at Got either! I kinda regret being curious about their characters and history...wahhhhhh but then again, like I said, I don't know how reliable the sources cited on wiki are. Read a couple of other sites as well and I'm so confused. There's not much on him unfortunately, so...
 
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