[Ch3] Kluen Cheevit (Lakorn Thai) Mark Prin/Yaya Urassaya
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luther
"Such fun!"
You're welcome.
The script I'm translating from is the one that they are using in the drama. The episodes thus far have followed the script pretty much exactly. I can't read Thai so its not from the original novel. I actually had no idea that this lakorn was originally based on a novel.
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sarNie Egg
@luther thank you also for the spoilersOkay I'm gonna attempt to translate one of the ending scenes in the podcast I linked above... mainly because I'm procrastinating on doing thesis research. Please keep in mind I'm not Thai, so this maybe a little shaky but I'll try my best. Also note, I'm not going to translate it WORD FOR WORD, because sometimes the meaning gets lost when doing that. I'm taking more of a semantic approach to translation. This scene most likely occurs after the scene
that TubbyTinker uploaded. Its pretty much the last few scenes,of feeding Jee porridge/talking to baby scenebecause it includes the proposal scene.
Here goes:
At the house of the married couple, Satit gets a call from Piak, asking how everything is going with Jee to which he replies, "We're probably going to come home soon."
Suddenly, the pregnant lady whom Jee and Satit are staying with goes into labor and her husband isn't home. Satit and Jeerawut rush to get her to the hospital in a panic and the lady ends up having a safe delivery, with both the baby and her being healthy and fine.
Both Jee and Satit breathe a massive sigh of relief.
A stressed out Jee says to Satit, "The difference between life and death can be so close, if we didn't help in time, something that should have been joyous occasion could have ended up being a tragedy. If I had to do it alone, what would I do?".
Satit tells her, "When the time comes, I'll be right there with you and I won't let you out of my sight. Don't worry, you don't have to fear that it'll happen like it did today. I'll be next to you for every moment of it, I promise." Satit then pulls Jee in for a hug and comforts her, making her feel warm inside and as well as making her afraid that she'll never be able to live alone again.
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Jee goes for a walk in *some place that I don't know the translation of but somewhere back at the married couples house near the beach * and sees broken clay figurines, making her feel even more worried about the lack of certainty in her life.
Satit follows after her and says, "These figurines have to be moulded, sculpted and they need time. We have to fire them up in kiln to harden them. It's just like our love, which had to go through the heat and the cold (i.e "the good and the bad") before we got to where we are today. However, that does not mean it's going to last forever, we need to cherish our love. The more difficult it was to obtain, the more patience we need to have, and the more effort and attention we need to dedicate to it while it still exists. We shouldn't worry about the future, as long as we live well today, that's good enough."
Jee replies, "In this life, I've never gotten anything without having to lose something else, everything in my life had to be traded for, including you. You are the last good thing in my life. It's so good that I fear it's too good to be true. I wouldn't dare get married, because I'm scared you'll be taken back. Both Mum and Granny Jahn, no matter who I love, I can never be with them. Do you understand? I'm afraid. I'm afraid that you'll be taken away from me."
To which Satit tells her, "I've also lost the people I love, including my parents as well as Tiw. Even as I was talking to Tiw, in a span of a second, she was taken from me."
After hearing that, Jee began feeling guilty.
Satit explains to her, "I'm not bringing this back up to blame you. I want to tell you that we don't have enough time in this life to spend it full of hate, anger and running away from what's inside our hearts. At this moment, I may be standing right in front of you but in five minutes, it's possible you may never see me again."
"That's the reason why I'm scared." Jee says.
"If you're scared, then right now as I'm standing front of you, why aren't you reaching your hand out to me and holding on tight? Why aren't you hugging me right now, before we run out of days to hug each other?" Satit continues, " I used to be so caught up in my vengeance and resentment that I almost lost you and our baby. Today, I have no more vengeance and I have no more resentment. The one and only thing I have left is my love for you. The reason I want to take care of you and spend the rest of my life with you, is not because of a sense of responsibility, I'm doing it because I love you with my entire heart."
Jee then replies, "It's because I love you, so much so that I'm afraid. Even thinking about a day that I might lose you, I feel as if I wouldn't be able to continue living anymore."
"But right now. Today. In this moment. I'm here with you. We stop being afraid of the future, Jee, because it's not bringing us any happiness in the present. All we should be focusing on is that you love me and I love you, and that's all we need."
Satit then drops one knee down onto the sand as the sun sets over the ocean horizon, and takes out an engagement ring from his pocket and holds it up to Jee as he says, "The law can dictate everything, except the matters of the heart. I can't use the law to force you to marry me. I hope that my love and the entirety of my life is enough for you to let go of your fears. I hope you will take a chance on spending the rest of your life with a man who is hot tempered and bad mouthed but loves only you. Can you do that Jee?"
Jee then looks at Satit with eyes full of joy and affection and throws her arms around him, accepting his proposal. Satit then hugs her back filled with happiness and love.
The two of then walk along the beach holding hands, occasionally kissing each others hands.
"So, when did you start loving me?" Satit asks cheekily. Jee remains silent, to which Satis says, "You're not answering, so you must have loved me a long time then huh?"
"That's not true!" Jee replies, "Don't go making things up."
"So tell me then, when did you start to secretly fall in love with me?" Satit urges.
"Irregardless of when I started loving you, it's still love isn't it?" says Jee.
"Thank you, Jee. Thank you for loving me. I will build a warm and loving family with you. We will take care of and raise our baby together." Satit continues, "Remember this Jee, I dedicate the rest of my life to loving you, and you only." Satit then hugs Jee tight as if he never wants to let go.
6 months later.
Both Jee and Piak are both heavily pregnant and close to their due dates, but still let their husbands take them to celebrate in a baby shower, where they have fun playing games along with Jed and Daraka who have also come along.
Hope you enjoyed!
it seems what you just shared is going to happen yey
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sathit's proposal
TubbyTinker
You're Average Person :)
Thanks Luther for translating. Lol i wasn't going to spoil that very ending just bc it was the very end. Lol. I like to keep the viewers surprise.
Come to think of it, I'm not sure if this is based on a novel too now but yes I get my spoilers from the script as well.
Come to think of it, I'm not sure if this is based on a novel too now but yes I get my spoilers from the script as well.
Luvablemeeh
sarNie Egg
Don't you feel lik Jee forgave sathit to quick.?
luther
"Such fun!"
Yep. Should have made the bastard squirm and grovel more
.But it is somewhat the nature of Thai lakorns. I find they are quite patriarchal and chauvinistic. If I had it my way, there would be no more sexual assault scenes that Thai lakorns are so infamous for. I feel like its decriminalizing that sort of behaviour and its sending the message that its okay because the leading man always gets forgiven instead of getting his stupid ass thrown into prison.
Anyways, I'm clearly going on a bit of a rant.
But truth be told I'm a little disappointed at how they handled the sex scene in this remake, I was hoping both parties would be completely consensual doing it. While it's not like he physically forces her to do it, she did it under duress to repent for her "crime". You get my drift? I would've much preferred for them to have sex simply because they had feelings for each other.
But then again, this comes back to the nature of Thai dramas, because "nang'eks can't sleep with someone willingly because then she'll be a slut". Like in KC everyone thinks Jee is the biggest hoe-bag for having an "affair (in Piaks imagination)" with Chayan and totally slut-shame her for it but Chayan barely gets judged for it. Don't get me wrong people get angry at him for it, but they don't seem to correlate it to his moral character like they do Jee. Jee is deemed the evil homewrecker but Chayan is just the guy who "understandably" falls for the guiles an immoral woman. I know some lakorns have consensual sex but its rare or they were drunk while doing(again to eliminate the slut factor).
But then again, this comes back to the nature of Thai dramas, because "nang'eks can't sleep with someone willingly because then she'll be a slut"
. Like in KC everyone thinks Jee is the biggest hoe-bag for having an "affair (in Piaks imagination)" with Chayan and totally slut-shame her for it but Chayan barely gets judged for it. Don't get me wrong people get angry at him for it, but they don't seem to correlate it to his moral character like they do Jee. Jee is deemed the evil homewrecker but Chayan is just the guy who "understandably" falls for the guiles an immoral woman. I know some lakorns have consensual sex but its rare or they were drunk while doing(again to eliminate the slut factor).Do the scriptwriters even realise how badly they are limiting their audience by having sexual assault scenes in it? I tried to get my friend who watches other Asian dramas into lakorns. She started with Game Rai Game Rak and immediately stopped watching lakorns because of the sexual assault scene. Anyone else notice that that the dramas with the most relevant and modern storylines do the best internationally i.e. Ugly ducking and Full house thailand?. KC is doing well so far, mainly because the storyline has been good thus far and the leading actors are hot but I predict people are gonna be pissed after seeing the way the sex scene was executed.
Sorry rant is over now.
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TubbyTinker
You're Average Person :)
I read mines from true. They always have the detailed one like you're reading a book lol.
TubbyTinker
You're Average Person :)
spoiler pics for episode 11. Cr.tvmagazine
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luther
"Such fun!"
Ya'll are lucky you can read in Thai. When Mark, Yaya or the director and producer post photos on their instagram accounts, I have to try and decipher the stupid english after hitting "see translation" and most of the times its absolute nonsense
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sarN
sarNie Granny
I'm 2 eps away to be caught up!!! I been behind on this lakorn , wasn't to fond of Mark and that kinda slow my pace on starting , therefore I haven't been following it as I should or spam loll and it have all my favorite plot w/ revenge, love-hate , slap-kiss tooo!! Plus , ya' ladies have too much spoiler !!! LOL I have to stay way from the forum till I'm ready to come out the cave or else I get spoil , so far I haven't been spoil much , all I know 'rscene' is coming up and that's good enough . And I have no problem with rscene , to me those are force seduction since the couple already had feeling for one another , where the mind said no but the body tell a different story HAHAHA.
. And I have no problem with rscene , to me those are force seduction since the couple already had feeling for one another , where the mind said no but the body tell a different story HAHAHA.
luther
"Such fun!"
I know right?! I mainly want them to go on 3 Zaap so the Chompoo can needle them about the love scene and how Nadech and Kim reacted to it.
luther
"Such fun!"
I really don't mean to call you out or anything... I just want to have an open discussion about this. But how does RAPE scenes not bother you. To me it doesn't matter if they have feelings for each other, in all cases having sex needs to be consensual. Just to clarify, I'm not against sex scenes because I'm conservative. I watched both 50 Shades movies and had a nice laugh at themI'm 2 eps away to be caught up!!! I been behind on this lakorn , wasn't to fond of Mark and that kinda slow my pace on starting , therefore I haven't been following it as I should or spam loll and it have all my favorite plot w/ revenge, love-hate , slap-kiss tooo!! Plus , ya' ladies have too much spoiler !!! LOL I have to stay way from the forum till I'm ready to come out the cave or else I get spoil , so far I haven't been spoil much , all I know 'rscene' is coming up and that's good enough
.But think about it this way...did you know that it was only in 1993 that marital rape was declared an illegal act in all the US states? One would imagine that majority of people who get married loved each other at on point or another, but that does not make it acceptable to deprive anyone of their right to choose whether or not they want to engage in sexual relations. If you were stuck in an sexually abusive marriage and marital rape was not considered a crime, could you imagine the horror? Rape is rape, its a criminal act for a reason, it's never okay.
In this specific case I don't think it's gonna be a rape. Jee went to Thit's house with a purpose. Right?I really don't mean to call you out or anything... I just want to have an open discussion about this. But how does RAPE scenes not bother you. To me it doesn't matter if they have feelings for each other, in all cases having sex needs to be consensual. Just to clarify, I'm not against sex scenes because I'm conservative. I watched both 50 Shades movies and had a nice laugh at them
But think about it this way...did you know that it was only in 1993 that marital rape was declared an illegal act in all the US states? One would imagine that majority of people who get married loved each other at on point or another, but that does not make it acceptable to deprive anyone of their right to choose whether or not they want to engage in sexual relations. If you were stuck in an sexually abusive marriage and marital rape was not considered a crime, could you imagine the horror? Rape is rape, its a criminal act for a reason, it's never okay.
On the other hand, i agree with @sarN, most of the time the mind says no but the body says a completely different thing. Unless there would be a lot of excesive violence.
Don't think of me in the wrong way, i dont't justify the rape in any case, but if anybody does not want it to happen then don't look for it.
sarN
sarNie Granny
oh' no problem , feel free to call me out , I'm cool with it , trust meI really don't mean to call you out or anything... I just want to have an open discussion about this. But how does RAPE scenes not bother you. To me it doesn't matter if they have feelings for each other, in all cases having sex needs to be consensual. Just to clarify, I'm not against sex scenes because I'm conservative. I watched both 50 Shades movies and had a nice laugh at them
But think about it this way...did you know that it was only in 1993 that marital rape was declared an illegal act in all the US states? One would imagine that majority of people who get married loved each other at on point or another, but that does not make it acceptable to deprive anyone of their right to choose whether or not they want to engage in sexual relations. If you were stuck in an sexually abusive marriage and marital rape was not considered a crime, could you imagine the horror? Rape is rape, it's never okay.
. I have no problem w/ rscene in lakorn because i'm use to seeing it in Thai drama, grow up watching the Thai culture , I accept their flaw in this matter & think nothing of it , I do not see lakorn as a reflection on such scenario in the real world because I know the storyline is intended for entertainment. Well, honestly I do not have a explanation for Thai or non-Thai fans out there but for myself , personal.... it's a guilt pleasure ...I'm suffering from being too much a romantic fanatic , I'm guilt of all charges in this area , call me sadist , it's my flaw and for being insane as well LOL . Each to their own liking .
Vivguirra
sarNie Hatchling
No one look for to be raped, no matter if she walks into his house naked, if she says no, it means no.
sarN
sarNie Granny
is that a spoiler ? She intend to offer herself ?