Vista sucks imo. Nothing ever works right or is compatible w/it yet. I've had to resort to loading XP in another partition and booting that instead of vista. I forgot but there was an updater file (something that had activation in it) on Nero 8 that you had to rename to make it a dummy file (so it doesn't automatically check and find out it's pirated). I do hate Nero 8 though, the setup is so confusing and not easy to navigate. I had to reinstall Nero 7 back I was so frustrated with 8.