Should we change the requirements for the Hmong beauty pageant?

hmoobibleeg

sarNie Egg
Judges Judges.

1. Judges should not be related to the pageant participants. Questionaire should be done to ensure this is accurate.
2. Judges should not be allowed back stage to communicate with the girls personally. Only on stage
3. Judges should come from an array of background, age and educational background. There should be more younger judges.
4. Pageant participants, should be able to speak english and hmong as they will represent our community.
5. Pageant participants should be within the US, and should automatically become part of the pageant committee for the following year.
6. If there are complaints, the New Year committee should really look into it and make it right. Example this year in Fresno, all the parents felt that there was favortism given to Mim because she performed two talents. Its the paj huam and then her singing the same paj huam. The committee needs to make sure that the participants only do 1 talent. If they approve more then one tallent, then they should let other parents know. All the girls also felt that the Fresno New Year Committee was unjust, unfair and thus favored Mim Hawj. This is the reason why no one really wants to participate because there is no justification and no responsibility.

my two cents .... let us become one heart, one goal, and one nation.
 

narita4u

sarNie Egg
Hmong Pageant issue,

I am older generation, 59 years of age now. What I have been thru is that when there is a problem in the Hmong community, then the older geneation tend to be the expert, the educated, the younger one tend to be a follower most of the time. When thing has happened at home or in the community then the older tends to take care of the problem, but when things happen and get involved of outsider then the younger one tend to be the interpreter, translator or the expert.

The solution is that the younger one tend to allow most the organizations or agencies get involved by the older ones that is where Hnong Pageant issue has been questionable for what we are talking here now.

Solution, you the younger ones must get involved withe non-profit organization nationwide as board membes in order to gain the power to make good choice, not bad choice.
Year after year has been the same because you, the younger ones have been ignoring to get involved. When you do not get involved and becoming board members or presidend, vice president of these non-organizations, then you will no power or authority at all when it is time for making judgement about selection the right Hmong Pageant that you want to see happening on the stage. Youm the younger ones can take all your time here just and talk and talk, chat and chat without action, then it will nevery be happening in the way that it should be happening. If you do not agree with me then let's watch for another decade from now. I think will be the same year after year until everyone just giving up.

If you "DON'T LIKE IT then TAKE ACTION NOW" and do not just complain it.
I am totally agreeing for most of the statements you all made here. But the problem is that you do not get involved period.

It is okay to have Hmong Pageant for Hmong New Year. But I would like promote college student who has earned a BA/BS degrees to be recognized right on the stage for everyone to see right there. I were the president of Hmnong International New Year then I will give award for those who has graduated from college as an encouragement for younger ones to see that education is the key and it is the best of all.
 

narita4u

sarNie Egg
I am interesting about creating an agency or foundation to help your children about higher education in America.
I want those who are holding a 4-year college or graduate to be on the stage at the Hmong International New Year year after year. I want these college kids as the best role model for our younger generation to come to see that the only way to be very successful in America is "Education."

I also want to stop our kids from involing gang activity nationwide and very help them that gang is no good at all. I will try to contact all those who used to be a gang member in the past when they were young and they are old now, or may be they have families with children as the role model to tell those kids that will be involved gang aware of this so they will not be rescued by other bad kids in the community.

I really want to take these kids who are gangs get out the the ghetto community, in their own world of ghetto world to the real world that they will gace now and the near future when they are getting older.
 

narita4u

sarNie Egg
Based on my research for over one year now. I have found that we have 700 Hmong students in colleges and universities in Laos. Especially, about 400 Hmong students, female and male, studying National University of Laos (Dongdok).http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_University_of_Laos. They are very poor and most of them have received scholarships from the Lao Government. Some have relatives in the US for support.

Forty Lao nationals will now have an opportunity to study in Australia after they were awarded an Australian Development Scholarship (ADS) recently.
http://www.lao-australianscholarships.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=4&Itemid=10
and I think we are here in the US, we would have the most opportunity to help those Hmong students in Laos to be able to study overseas here in the US or Australia. The number of Hmong students to be a part of the group to study in Australia, I do not know but it could be very minimal.
But we can help them we want too. There are many ways, not only helping those over there, but also those are here in the US because hundred of scholarships and grants that are available for those who really want to pursue their higher education.
What do you think about my idea?????
 

YM_gurl

sarNie Oldmaid
If so, what should be change to help improve the competition?
Is our opinions going to the person who is holding the Pageant?
If not, it's useless.

btw Hmong people don't even know how to run one, i dont know why
they do. It makes them look uneducated. hehe
 

justb

sarNie Egg
Judges Judges.

1. Judges should not be related to the pageant participants. Questionaire should be done to ensure this is accurate.
2. Judges should not be allowed back stage to communicate with the girls personally. Only on stage
3. Judges should come from an array of background, age and educational background. There should be more younger judges.
4. Pageant participants, should be able to speak english and hmong as they will represent our community.
5. Pageant participants should be within the US, and should automatically become part of the pageant committee for the following year.
6. If there are complaints, the New Year committee should really look into it and make it right. Example this year in Fresno, all the parents felt that there was favortism given to Mim because she performed two talents. Its the paj huam and then her singing the same paj huam. The committee needs to make sure that the participants only do 1 talent. If they approve more then one tallent, then they should let other parents know. All the girls also felt that the Fresno New Year Committee was unjust, unfair and thus favored Mim Hawj. This is the reason why no one really wants to participate because there is no justification and no responsibility.

my two cents .... let us become one heart, one goal, and one nation.
I agree. It seems that the Fresno Hmong International New Years Pageant conspired w/ Mim Hawj to help her win. Mim's mom Butterfly (really, her mom is named butterfly per Mim's intro speech) had the audacity to tell the pageant committee that the committee was disrespectful toward her and her daughter (Mim). In retrospect, it was actually the Butterfly and Gao Mos that was disrespectful toward the entire pageant committee and all of the contestants and their parents.

Aww.. But what can you do... The committee decided to trade the respect of all the pageant girls, their parents, and the community for Butterfly and her daughter Gao Mos.
 

justb

sarNie Egg
So, there's evidence that the Fresno Committee gave the questions for the evening gown round and the top 5 round to Nkauj Mog Mee in advance. Witnesses saw the girl studying the questions on a 8 1/2 x 11 sheet of paper beforehand. The sheet of paper contained the pageant questions and answers.

All the other girls had to answer the questions impromptu. Any communication/ speech specialist can tell you that her answers during the top 5 round were premeditated answers. It sounds too much like a pre-written outline.

So, there's no point in trying to re-org a pageant when it's rotten from the inside out.
 

milacute04

sarNie Egg
So, there's evidence that the Fresno Committee gave the questions for the evening gown round and the top 5 round to Nkauj Mog Mee in advance. Witnesses saw the girl studying the questions on a 8 1/2 x 11 sheet of paper beforehand. The sheet of paper contained the pageant questions and answers.

All the other girls had to answer the questions impromptu. Any communication/ speech specialist can tell you that her answers during the top 5 round were premeditated answers. It sounds too much like a pre-written outline.

So, there's no point in trying to re-org a pageant when it's rotten from the inside out.

you know this happened before... in 2004 when Gao Zoo Yaj won, the first runner up girl were given questions to study before hand... her name was Gao Shoua Lee... i detest her cuz she cheated big time... two of the contestants found this out and they complain about and there where so many arguements backstage and even one of the trainers started crying and cussing.. they purposely put her to second place cuz they knew that they would get in trouble if she got first... and plus on the second day, they change all the judges due to cheating... i was so mad!
 

bigbirdnme

sarNie Egg
they should change the age requirement to 18 or 19. most of the winner are 16 17 or just going to turn 18. they are barely legal, some of them still has curfew buy law, some can't even drive yet and still depend on their parents to take them places. the winner has many duties that she has to do including community involvement and late night parties. we need someone who can at least be legal and can drive so they help out more and make the hmong people look good.
 

milacute04

sarNie Egg
they should change the age requirement to 18 or 19. most of the winner are 16 17 or just going to turn 18. they are barely legal, some of them still has curfew buy law, some can't even drive yet and still depend on their parents to take them places. the winner has many duties that she has to do including community involvement and late night parties. we need someone who can at least be legal and can drive so they help out more and make the hmong people look good.
i agree with you completely..
 

tao

sarNie Egg
I am 21 years old, and i have worked with HANY for over 3 years, Since i was 18 years old. I have participated in the Hmong American New Year Prince Charming Competition, before working with the organization. All the above comments, opinions, suggestions are all great. Let me shine a little light on how hard the organization is working for the fairness and safety of each individual that had helped their organization grow.

Per my experience working with Hmong American New Year (Metro Dome New Year MN): Each year, The organization sends out over 50 invitation to Hmong Leaders and Educated Hmong individuals that the organization are aware of. Sadly, only few responded to their invitation each year. Most of them, too busy to give out their time. The Hmong Community just can't blame the organization for not being flexible or having more variety in their judges. The organization can't simply force an individual to sit.

Even before the organization select a judge to send out a invitation letter, the judge is pre-screened by the Broad members through his/hers accomplishment and reputation.

What can an individual do to increase the variety of the judges? Take action!! If anyone has a person, friends, or relatives that, through their opinion, qualify for the position of a judge for the new year, Send a request letter to that organization. The organization are always looking for more and more judges each and every year.

As for the Talent, This is a very hard topic, and a very very hard round to control. First we have to understand that there is this word "Freedom".

Now what does freedom have to do with talent round? We as the organization hard to control the situation once the contestants steps onto the stage. Per my experiences working as the chairman of the Prince Charming and Coordinator for Hmong American New Year, All the contestants are aware that these actions will deduct their points during the talent round: their talents longer then 5 minutes long, also if they do more then one talent, and also, Only one person can be on stage and only one during the talent round, and that one person is the contestant that is doing the talent.

Each year, every contestant has their own unique idea. they want to bring change to the talent round and that's when things gets crazy and hell just breaks lose.

Also, the talent round i see that, its very restricting and limited. It's one of the most pressured round for most contestant. Many of our young Hmong Men and Women are now into more sport activities. Football, volleyball, tennis, etc..... And sport is very hard to show off on stage.

The Audience could be laughing at how much a contestant's voice sucks as he/she sings, but only if they knew that that the contestant is a very altheltic individual, a star football player in his high school football team, a 4.0 GPA student, and that showing off his altheltic skill is very difficult to express, will they appreciate him for trying out new things, and willing to take a shot at it.

I wrote this really fast, sorry in advance for the bad grammar. Also this post is only through my experience working with HANY only. Not with any other Hmong New year organization. Please don't account my opinion into other organizations, In each organization has its own sets of rules and laws. I also apologize ahead of time, that my post is off topic, its more of a response to most of the comments that were posted.

Lastly, Working with non-profit organizations and taking actions i understand more now. In the past i used to question how the prince charming competition was run. I took the action and joined the competition, and also worked with the organization. Action!!
 
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