when i saw margie that was my reaction too! Im still flabbergasted that PopeBelle still havent had a photoshoot together yet!
[Ch3] Bpoop Phaeh Saniwaat (Broadcast Thai) : Pope Thanawat / Bella Ranee
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sarNie Hatchling
Thank you @Amata for explaining the scenes in detail.... i am always looking forward to your posts to help us understand BPS better
@Fikachu I’m sorry answering your question late and sorry for the long post as well. English is not my native language. I just make it sure that you would understand what I mean and I find it is easier to tell you my thought, then you could get the answers there.
You ask me why Date laughed. My answer is “I don’t know”. We don’t know his thought at all. What I can do is only to guess from the context that might be possible or impossible. Sometimes there are many things happen then when we come to a certain point and look back we would like to laugh. Date might be like that. Anyway when Date told Kade that he didn’t laugh at her. I believe him.
Before the poetry scene there was one of the scenes that I don’t like. That is the scene when Date told Kade back to her room but she said why Mae Ying Jaanwaad who was a woman also still sat there. They had argument in the presence of adults. The way she spoke to Ko Sa Lek including her voice and her manners was too aggressive. She stood up while adults still sat. She didn’t respect Khun Loong who was the host, his guests and Date (her betrothed). If this is not a lakorn and Kade were in Ayutthaya Era I don’t think she would have allowed to join in the conversation again. (I don’t understand why the script writer or the director made such scene. This scene made Kade look not good.)
Date might be still angry with Kade. Although he liked Nam Pla Wan, when Kade asked him if Nam Pla Wan was good, he stopped eating.
In the poetry scene Date still looked unhappy with Kade no matter what she said. At the same time he didn’t like when she talked with Muen Rueng. Besides when Kosa Pan asked Kade if she would like to try. Date said “She never does it. No one knows if she can write poetry or not. But it seems like she can’t.” The way he said seemed like he insulted Kade. But then Kade was forced to do it, his eyes looked worried if she would not be able to do it. After he listening Kade’s Glon, his eyes and mind opened as you said and he could not keep his feeling anymore. He smiled with pleasure. Although he answered Khun loong about Kade’s Glon that it was “Mai Thao Rai”, he turned to see her, smiled and was teasing her by raising his eyebrows a little.
Kade knew that Glon from her study. In general, Glon that is melodically accurate in terms of prosody often used as an example in the textbook or in the classroom. But this Glon not only is correct in order of prosody with good meaning, but it’s also full of consonant and vowel rhyme that makes it more melodic. So it was not surprising that Date impressed this Glon.
One more thing no matter what Kade would intend or not, the meaning of her Glon made the moon in jaanwaad and Date’ Klong became “The Moon in the sky that is easy to find and /tired of looking / so tired of that have to turn face away”
The meaning of Kade's Glon is on the page 1011 post 20209
https://www.asianfuse.net/discuzz/t...hai-pope-thanawat-bella-ranee.54464/page-1011
Then when Date saw Jaanwaad’s expression and listened to what she said, he laughed. He might understand how Jaanwaad felt.
******** Perhaps it is not only the Glon made him smile but the Glon also let him know Kade better. At least he knew she was educated. In addition to reading and writing, she also had knowledge of poetry too.
******* I’m sorry I don’t know the word “Mai Thao Rai” in English, it maybe, “it is ok, just ok, just fine” In English subtitle used “not much” I’m not sure if it is correct.
About Jaanwaad I have to guess also.
Jaanwaad was Ko Sa Lek’s daughter that let her had a chance to study. Her parents hired teachers to teach at home. Her skill was so good that she could write up Klong at once and was accepted. In the scenes we don’t know that she suspected there was someone inside Karakade’s body like Date did or not. KaraKade’s image in her eyes still was terrible. She saw that Karakade had changed but she didn’t think Karakade could write a beautiful Glon. She could see that everyone impressed her Glon including Date.
When Kade said to her “Come back to visit us again, Mae Ying Jaanwaad.” (I translate directly from Thai)
She said “(I) haven’t known yet” without looking at Kade. (English Subtitle uses “I still don’t know”)
From her expression, her voice and the context, I don’t think she would hesitate to visit again. She just was in the mood of being disappointed and was not ready to think of the next time.
Your question, why throughout the whole scene, Date kept looking into her eyes.
As you said Khun loong told Date he believed Kade telling the truth because he looked into her eyes. It would be the normal thing that Date knew. When people are talking, they should look at the eyes of each other. But when he was reminded by his father, it might make him more concentrate on it. However, the most important thing that made him keep looking into her eyes was he liked her. When a man likes or loves a girl, he tries to make eye contact with her to let her know he is interested in her. At the same time he could know from her eyes too if she likes him back.
Sometimes when I watch the scene “I like that Glon” I wonder Kade might not only avoid talking about the Glon with him but she also would like to keep away from his eyes as well. What would you do if you were Kade in that scene? (After looking in Date's eyes)
TheJoker
PPP's #1 Pu Ying Chum
@Amata
In response to your post in page 142 – Part 1
Thank you for enlightening us on the differences between the novel and drama Kade. I’ll use Kade instead of Mae Karakade for ease of reference in this discussion.
I believe the drama did differentiate the novel and drama Kade and I do understand why such choice was made as well. For the novel Kade, her thoughts are narrated for the readers to comprehend her actions while in the drama, Kade’s actions were shown for the viewers to see.
Moreover, I believe there were other differences as well, where in the novel, Kade inquisitiveness was to experience firsthand and to compare notes from what was recorded by historians. Sadly, in the drama, the reason behind why is Kade so curious didn’t translate well and it came across as Nosey Kade instead. Even though, there were scenes to show Kade wrote in her journal and questioning the historical records but in those scenes, Kade was shown in a light hearted manner together with her countless throwaway remarks. Except in the later scenes when Kade grave manner and inner thoughts in writing her entries on Phaulkon and Phra Phetchracha showed her concerns and carefulness to depart the information she’s known from historical facts.
@Fickachu – page 1443 and @Amata
Where to start hrmmm….because the discussions have a few points. By the way I've watched both the original and uncut versions for better understanding and comparison purpose.
I start off with the Poem Slam between the 3 parties. Noticed that Kade hesitated on the friendly invitation to join in the poetry session from Kosa Ban and then it was very much instigated by the irritated Khun P as a result of Kade’s sarcastic delivery of her complement towards his poem and poetry skills.
Here, I believed Khun P realised that Kade disinterest in the Poetry Slam and that her skill is questionable especially:
1) Kade’s hesitation when invited by Kosa Ban;
2) Khun P’s fired the scathing remark whether she was able to write the poetry verses and Kade did not retort because so far Khun P had identified that Kade did not shy away from arguments especially when she had an opinion and believed that she’s right;
3) After Khun Lung gave the slate to Kade for her to compose the poem, the concern expressed by Khun P i.e., his face depicted the same expression when he knew Kade cried at the temple; and
4) Khun P voiced his concern "are you sure?" (uncut version) with wrinkling forehead when Kade declared she finished composing her poem.
Therefore, on the usage of “taeng” context by Khun P. I believe Khun P was blasé with his comment because he was just impressed with Kade’s comeback in terms of the poem itself. Kade’s poem was able to seamlessly tie both poems from Mae Janward and Khun P on thematic basis. Whereas the earlier two poems were inward reflections, such as Mae Janward on her limited/modest capabilities and being consoled by Khun P with praises. But Kade’s poem has a wider and layered thoughtful meanings that forced Khun P to examine and appreciate the unconventional instead (moon on earth and the companion perspective from poem's verses).
~~ To be continued on Khun P’s laughters and his surprised expression. ~~
In response to your post in page 142 – Part 1
Thank you for enlightening us on the differences between the novel and drama Kade. I’ll use Kade instead of Mae Karakade for ease of reference in this discussion.
I believe the drama did differentiate the novel and drama Kade and I do understand why such choice was made as well. For the novel Kade, her thoughts are narrated for the readers to comprehend her actions while in the drama, Kade’s actions were shown for the viewers to see.
Moreover, I believe there were other differences as well, where in the novel, Kade inquisitiveness was to experience firsthand and to compare notes from what was recorded by historians. Sadly, in the drama, the reason behind why is Kade so curious didn’t translate well and it came across as Nosey Kade instead. Even though, there were scenes to show Kade wrote in her journal and questioning the historical records but in those scenes, Kade was shown in a light hearted manner together with her countless throwaway remarks. Except in the later scenes when Kade grave manner and inner thoughts in writing her entries on Phaulkon and Phra Phetchracha showed her concerns and carefulness to depart the information she’s known from historical facts.
@Fickachu – page 1443 and @Amata
Where to start hrmmm….because the discussions have a few points. By the way I've watched both the original and uncut versions for better understanding and comparison purpose.
I start off with the Poem Slam between the 3 parties. Noticed that Kade hesitated on the friendly invitation to join in the poetry session from Kosa Ban and then it was very much instigated by the irritated Khun P as a result of Kade’s sarcastic delivery of her complement towards his poem and poetry skills.
Here, I believed Khun P realised that Kade disinterest in the Poetry Slam and that her skill is questionable especially:
1) Kade’s hesitation when invited by Kosa Ban;
2) Khun P’s fired the scathing remark whether she was able to write the poetry verses and Kade did not retort because so far Khun P had identified that Kade did not shy away from arguments especially when she had an opinion and believed that she’s right;
3) After Khun Lung gave the slate to Kade for her to compose the poem, the concern expressed by Khun P i.e., his face depicted the same expression when he knew Kade cried at the temple; and
4) Khun P voiced his concern "are you sure?" (uncut version) with wrinkling forehead when Kade declared she finished composing her poem.
Therefore, on the usage of “taeng” context by Khun P. I believe Khun P was blasé with his comment because he was just impressed with Kade’s comeback in terms of the poem itself. Kade’s poem was able to seamlessly tie both poems from Mae Janward and Khun P on thematic basis. Whereas the earlier two poems were inward reflections, such as Mae Janward on her limited/modest capabilities and being consoled by Khun P with praises. But Kade’s poem has a wider and layered thoughtful meanings that forced Khun P to examine and appreciate the unconventional instead (moon on earth and the companion perspective from poem's verses).
~~ To be continued on Khun P’s laughters and his surprised expression. ~~
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Fikachu
Good to be back!
I would...เป็นลม (this means faint, right?)because his stare is too intense
@Fikachu Yes, เป็นลม = pass out, faint
There is a person, who can stand there and looks into his eyes for a long time, not pass away or faint, is Bella. I wonder how she can act like that with Pope.
Thank you for confirmingShe has looked into his eyes too many times so I guess she's used to it. she should give the rest of us a chance to try it outNever mind.Great only has a chance in this lakorn.Pope has another 2 lakorns to try new techniques!
Good night dear!I am going to bed now, night everyone!
Fikachu
Good to be back!
Can someone explain to me about the calender event? Is it an end-of-year yearly event for fans of Ch3? Is the grouping or pairing in the photos significant (i.e predict who they'll be acting with the next year)? I only found out about it when I watched this:
Ahh...so this is happening on 25 November. I'm sure there'll be lots to post!
https://www.instagram.com/p/BpgIkz5HAu6/?utm_source=ig_share_sheet&igshid=60jnrhiol1cj
I was about to guess who Bella might pair up with.But then...Woah!Bella's got 5 guys by her side!
https://www.instagram.com/p/BpgAh_Ug7o_/?utm_source=ig_share_sheet&igshid=1ioyp3a8q9tb3
https://www.instagram.com/p/BpgIkz5HAu6/?utm_source=ig_share_sheet&igshid=60jnrhiol1cj
I was about to guess who Bella might pair up with.But then...Woah!Bella's got 5 guys by her side!
https://www.instagram.com/p/BpgAh_Ug7o_/?utm_source=ig_share_sheet&igshid=1ioyp3a8q9tb3
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TheJoker
PPP's #1 Pu Ying Chum
Well, you're more around than another member...who is an American...self-declared farang and Samee's MIA X Number. Barely remember her. Yup, purged from history already
Anyway, no worries... you've flooded me and this thread with enough goodies....Thank You for your ever stalking the samee accomplishments.
TheJoker
PPP's #1 Pu Ying Chum
Stop me if you can
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A picture tells a thousand word.
If the "sorry" comes with a cheque...that definitely you've earn my forgiveness (j/k). No worries...and no offence taken as well.OMG sorry sorry sorry! I misread your posts probably. Didn’t mean any offense
Now, come to the announcement, you’re declared my #2 rival. You sneaky tricky gal. You promised no intentions on samee and what I read from your posts, you’re all over samee
#2 rival? Moi?
All over samee? Who's and whose samee? 
The pledge "BPS LSP 50 Shades White Pants Long Belt Long Jacket Two Golden Hairy Nipple Peeping Sniffing Muscle Shading Awkward Hand Little Fresh Meat Pao Sauce Feel Good No Complaints Just Extra Pervy Ladies Crew!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! "
Here are my comments on the Pledge:
1) I'm not incline to just BPS's LSP but the overall motion, action, reaction and satisfaction of LSP.
2) 50 Shades White Pants - preferable to do without the pants, focus on primary object.
3) Long Belt Long Jacket - same answer as above, of course.
4) Two Golden Hairy Nipple - Golden: definitely not this colour and not hairy as well. Lefty: 3 strands and righty: 2 strands.
5) Peeping Sniffing - part of foreplay.
6) Muscle Shading - depends on location and brightness.
7) Awkward Hand - the kind of gift that keeps on giving. MmMmM what a pleasure.
8) Little Fresh Meat - the condition depends on time x frequency but P'Pope will be taken aback with the "little".
9) Pao Sauce - depending on the availability of the tool and dressing (chocolate, salsa etc) and the sense of adventure of course.
10) Feel Good No Complaints - money back guarantee
11) Just Extra Pervy Ladies Crew - I'm the 4th and sole lady of the PPP crew.
TheJoker
PPP's #1 Pu Ying Chum
The PPP and sole Pu Ying members believe in make love not war.
So no bashing....ouch ouch.I was NOT in the Samee's Que at all. Thus, I didn't stand or go behind the Just Extra Pervy Ladies Crew's back.You go behind our backs
Love me as I amAhhhh, what should I do with you. Consider this is your redemption. You’re the only one with me in this
Ooohhh Redemption like Mae Karakade asking Kade to do merits for her?IMHO, there were certain scenes that worth the watch for Kharm See Tan Dorn (KSTD) drama. But coming from BPS to KSTD, I was kind of bite the bullet frame of mind watching it. Do I regret my decision? No, because it did pick my thoughts and I was emotionally invested with the Tiangwan's family ties especially with his father. But KSTD was has much potential that was wasted
because it could be the kind of drama that has cult following due to its drama premise. A grade for 
but F for execution.On the Pope's acting, I'm still on the route of watching his dramas...hence I'll hold off that comment for now.
Will get back to you on this it is a Private group on FB by Leocadia as the admin.What is this Love destiny sub for international fans? A channel on YouTube? Can you please post a link here because I couldn’t find it
TheJoker
PPP's #1 Pu Ying Chum
^5. Yup, if I can't buy the outward appearance for the dramas' characters in the 1st place...FYKI, I don't mind James Ma's features in Khun Chai series... but somehow different reaction to James Ji and another reaction towards Nadech.
Gluttony is one of the 7 deadly sins (jk)
. I do like that Pope has outside of the lakorn interests and maybe previously not due to choice. But going forward, I hope he's selective in his drama and movie choice while continuously building his acting repertoire.Veni, vidi, vici -
done deal as the official sole 4th female member of the PPP.On the different dimensions, "arai je ghet ke thong ghet"
TheJoker
PPP's #1 Pu Ying Chum
I like Bell's make-up and overall appearance. Looks young and fresh. Suay mak makSo cute!!
https://www.instagram.com/p/BpcMHSel2i5/?utm_source=ig_share_sheet&igshid=lpllwu1cn9zu
https://www.instagram.com/p/Bpb1GX6FCsE/?utm_source=ig_share_sheet&igshid=n5st3wufqui5
https://www.instagram.com/p/BpbpFyZByPS/?utm_source=ig_share_sheet&igshid=tzmsgsac6np0
So people combined photos of them with children
https://www.instagram.com/p/BpcH0Lcl_x8/?utm_source=ig_share_sheet&igshid=17585je0fim1o
https://www.instagram.com/p/BpcYBPggnnJ/?utm_source=ig_share_sheet&igshid=1hokn4a91q0um
TheJoker
PPP's #1 Pu Ying Chum
Loads eh,Hi*waves* It's been quite silent yesterday(I say this because it's 1.13a.m here) with only @lamchieu and @TheJoker online posting loads of comments.I haven't replied to them but I will once I wake up later on.Glad you got to meet your bestie so soon
Bella will have another event on 28 October at 2p.m (Bangkok timing) at Robinson Roi for AIS event.So you can look forward to more posts of her event!I'm pretty much free today except for the essay that I have to start on.So I'll be online to chat or post
https://www.instagram.com/p/BpJvV6inw_Y/?utm_source=ig_share_sheet&igshid=1awer8vkbib43
it was my chatty moments
MissPK
Got Phet?! ❤
Lol darn, I tried to stay away from that title, but it follows me everywhere (perverted)
MissPK
Got Phet?! ❤
Omfg!!! You were only like 2 hrs away from meeting Pope!! Grrr, i would've kicked myself in the butt lol
MissPK
Got Phet?! ❤
I'll take you next time! Lol hurry up and finish school so we can go together!You didn't take me with you how dare you
MissPK
Got Phet?! ❤
I saw the fan meeting on CH3 YouTube, omg. I was soooooo jealous of the girl he pulled from the crowded lol ughOMG Got is on now! in Ayutthaya clothes
MissPK
Got Phet?! ❤
But you're #1 mia rak lolHey hey hey don't be giving people my title just because I'm not on as often anymore!!!
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MissPK
Got Phet?! ❤
Hahaha now you got me thinking the same coz my fat ass would've eaten all the cakes myself! Lol I think Thai people eat a lot. The portions are a bit smaller than what we are used to here in the states, they walk a lot, and the food is fresher! (Well to me it is. I ate like all day, everyday while there and I never felt nasty or had that food coma feeling. Surprisingly i only put on 2lbs from my trip! But labor day weekend here of eating all day every day for 3 days, i put on like 10lbs lol)I wonder what Thai celebrities do with all those cakes they get for their birthdays? They post pictures of them with five different cakes and judging by how fit/thin they are, they definitely aren't eating all of them themselves...
Speaking of thin, one of days we were there... my bf goes "I just realized that no one here is fat" lol I'm like "really, you just noticed that? I feel like freaking snorlax here!"