Thai army seizes control in Bangkok

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Preahya

sarNie Hatchling
I wouldn`t call politics stupid because the media outlets are shut down. But back to the topic itself...the army commander Sodhi (spelled his name wrong) w/ the approval by the KING OF THAILAND himself, staged a bloodless coup e`tat in Bangkok. They took controlled over all t.v. stations and soo forth! Some people welcome the coup due to Thaksin`s corruption allegations. The United States disapproved the military coup e`tat by stating that any political differences should be handle by democratic process and not through the military. Australia was the biggest critics of the military coup e`tat...by issuing a statement that the act of the coup itself `destroy democracy.`

I think imposing martial law is really scary!!

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SilverDragon_999

sarNie Hatchling
i wasn't calling politics stupid because of the media outles being shut down... i was just really fed up that they haven't been able to resolve this problem for nearly a year! everything was getting more and more out of control and i think the army has just had enough of the bickering and protests so they staged a coup.
 
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natty

Chubs
isnt it fishy that the guy who commanded all this is the same guy that are being investigated for the attempt assasination on thaksin..
 
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Preahya

sarNie Hatchling
well, that`s how politics work especially in a democracy...it is slow and it will take time. I understand that politics could be soo stressful (I should know....BUSH being reelected, and how Congress really work) would make anyone mad!

But I don`t get it, I thought the people demanded for Thaksin resigntation after the corruptions were made public...and I thought there was an election too, I`m lost!!

But the man to blame is Thaksin himself...if he really love his country and soo forth he should`ve of resign along time ago and went out respectfully and with some dignity but he couldn`t and now the military had taken their own actions against the P.M.!!

there alot of people, who wants to keep their interests intact and are willing to do anything to keep it! The sole blame is GREED!!

natty said:
isnt it fishy that the guy who commanded all this is the same guy that are being investigated for the attempt assasination on thaksin..
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not really, i don`t find anything fishy about it. I read about it on msn.com and I didn`t find it alarming.

Army chief: Thai coup necessary to heal rifts
 
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natty

Chubs
since thaksin came into power.. he boost the economy by 53%.. so yeah.. he really messed up thailand, shouldnt had took them out of that depression... and omg he won the recent election too.. yup the people really wanted him out....

as for not finding it fishy.. well i guess it just depend on which side you're on right? it's the same in the states.. some say bush is wrong and some say no.. just all comes down to who you believe is right...
 
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Reagan

sarNie Adult
natty, he boosted the economy and won the recent election? and what the? are you being sarcastic?! doesnt it mean he did good!
 
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*Ice*

sarNie Adult
not many people like taksin so he just might as well get out lol coz we lookin for another person now lol what ever i dont so politics lol
 
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Reagan

sarNie Adult
thailand is in chaos, just become a minor state to the GREAT COUNTRY OF LAOS, we'll treat you as equals, =)
 
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natty

Chubs
Reagan said:
natty, he boosted the economy and won the recent election? and what the? are you being sarcastic?! doesnt it mean he did good!
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yeah i was being sarcastic..


when they said the people want him out.. which people are we talking about here? the one that voted for him to stay?.. are they not the people too? what happen to democracy? also how convenient that this commander made himself a temporary pm until they find a new pm.. and let's just think.. who will be the new pm that they will approve and call off this military takeover? of course it gotta be someone they like and approve.. so why not make it someone from their side... they also said the king approve.. why have we not heard from the king yet? wouldnt it better if the king tell the public himself? and they yell corruption... well why not arrest him when he was there then put him to trial and prosecute him? why wait til he's out of the country then take over? it's a coward act and it's fishy...
 
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Pee

sarNie Elites
wahh I wonder why a topic like this didnt come up before now

these matters has been going on for months...

LOL but im not telling who´s side im on..... i dunno wanna argue lol!
 
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natty

Chubs
pee.. i think it's because some people werent really paying attention nor care much..but now they have to cus it's making headlines everywhere..

but anyways.. they just reported that the king have spoken.. and told the people to listen to the military.. well i guess looking at their history.. i'm not so surprise to his announcements..
 
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sarNie Elites
yeah its true natty....

lol i watched the news in sweden and the reporter and the people here think that the king ordered the military to do like this,,, omg so wrong.. i hope they take back their words...
 
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Preahya

sarNie Hatchling
natty said:
since thaksin came into power.. he boost the economy by 53%.. so yeah.. he really messed up thailand, shouldnt had took them out of that depression... and omg he won the recent election too.. yup the people really wanted him out....

as for not finding it fishy.. well i guess it just depend on which side you're on right? it's the same in the states.. some say bush is wrong and some say no.. just all comes down to who you believe is right...
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well, I don`t think a coup was necessary but it is THAI politics and as a foreigner, i will never understand it at all. For me... reading, and learning about it....is probably the best I could do! But in this situation it does seems like P.M. Thaksin (to me) was wrong!

The players in politics are always fishy and no one is innocent as we the public like to think they are...and that`s the reason why, I don`t feel like what the army commander DID was `fishy` because POLITICS IS A GAME and if we are lucky enough...have honest people in our government, who is working for our best interests!

I thought this was interesting and I want to post it on here!!

OVERDRIVE
Sonthi outsmarted Thaksin at the eleventh hour

Had Council for Democratic Reform under Constitutional Monarchy (CDRM) leader General Sonthi Boonyaratglin not moved as fast as he did to stage a coup on Tuesday, Thaksin Shinawatra would have launched his own coup a day later. Don't be fooled by Thaksin's claim that he stands for democracy.


As the political crisis developed to the point of no return concerning whether Thaksin should stay or be booted out, General Sonthi had no choice but to swallow his words about the days of military coups being over. He had been very reluctant to resort to a coup, as he was known not to have any political ambitions. Moreover, he was not known to be an enemy of Thaksin. Although General Sonthi has a good relationship with both Privy Council President General Prem Tinsulanonda and Privy Council member General Surayuth Chulanont, he came to power partly due to a political compromise struck with Thaksin.


However, an intelligence report reached General Sonthi's camp stating that there would be bloodshed on Wednesday. The People's Alliance for Democracy had planned to hold a political rally that day at the Royal Plaza in order to force Thaksin out of politics. Had that rally taken place, there would have been clashes between the People's Alliance for Democracy and Thaksin's supporters and blood would have been spilt on Rajdamnoen Avenue. If only Thaksin had promised that he would take a break from politics and allow a period of political reforms to take place, the PAD and other branches of the anti-Thaksin movement would have declared victory. All political confrontations would have subsided. Thaksin could have run for office once the Constitution was amended, and he would have been returned to the premier's post, probably in the latter part of next year.


However, Thaksin never considered taking a break from power. Again, don't be fooled by his "taking a break" story - the idea never crossed his mind.


The General Sonthi camp learned that during the PAD rally, Yongyuth Tiyapairat and Newin Chidchob were planning to rally their supporters to create an ugly scene at the Royal Plaza. During the ensuing commotion, there would be human casualties. Thaksin would then have stepped in and declared a state of emergency, placing the country under martial law.


Now you can understand why he had time to prepare his state of emergency statement and read it at 9.20pm on Channel 9 from his New York hotel room. You can also understand why Yongyuth and Newin are now at the top of this country's most-wanted list and have surrendered themselves to the CDRM for interrogation.


Once the situation was under his complete control, Thaksin had planned to fly back yesterday in order to declare victory over anti-democratic elements in society. He had a military reshuffle list in hand that would have further consolidated his control over the military. With that accomplished, everything would have been easy. Virtually all institutions in the country would have been under his directive.


From his New York hotel, Thaksin was preparing to deliver an address at the UN Assembly. The room instead turned out to be the headquarters from which he attempted to launch a counter-coup and negotiate a political settlement. In New York, he planned to recruit top-notch American political consultants to advise him on his political campaign for the next election, which would have been pushed back from October 15 to some time in November.


Thaksin's talk of taking a break from politics was simply lip service. He told the Thai public he would decide whether to take a break from politics only after his Thai Rak Thai went to the Election Commission to register as candidates. This means Thaksin would have liked His Majesty the King to endorse a new election date before he made his decision.


Members of the Thai elite and the PAD, however, would not allow this to happen. If Thaksin were to run in the next election, he would have won. With 12 million votes or so, he would have claimed a democratic majority and he also would have stayed on as prime minister. After that he could rewrite Thai history by turning Thailand into his own regime.


General Sonthi had to act fast to head off Thaksin's coup. He staged a military coup on Tuesday, a day before the bloodshed was set to take place. He and Thaksin did have a telephone conversation on Tuesday evening, with Thaksin trying to buy time and negotiate a settlement.


He told General Sonthi that if he kept his cool, Thaksin would take a break from politics. He asked Sonthi to wait until he returned from New York so that the two could talk things out and said that he would reschedule his return flight to Bangkok to Wednesday, instead of yesterday as he had planned.


General Sonthi was polite, but told him that he had no choice, that he had to stage the coup.


In the meantime, Thaksin was checking on his military allies, who had control of Bangkok, for the most part. He remained certain that in a military power play, he could still emerge the victor. Maj-General Prin Suwannathat, commander of the First Infantry Brigade, is a close ally of Thaksin and he holds the most powerful military post in Bangkok. The commanders of the Air Force and the Navy are also good friends of Thaksin.


General Sonthi had the support of Lt-General Saphrang Kalayanamit of the Third Army, who had been outspoken in his anti-Thaksin remarks. The Third Army is in charge of all military operations in the North. Another key ally of Gen Sonthi is Lt-General Anupong Phaochinda of the First Infantry Division in Bangkok. Maj-General Sanit Prommas, the commander of the Second Cavalry Brigade, also came to play an important role in the power play to seize the capital.


Troops from Prachin Buri and Lop Buri were also mobilised to the capital to assist in the coup, the decisive outcome of which was ironically the victory of thaharn ban nok (upcountry military).


As it turned out, all of Thaksin's military allies, most notably Maj-General Prin, had been marked out - they could not move. General Ruengroj Mahasaranont, the supreme commander and a Thaksin ally, was to look after Bangkok once Thaksin had declared martial law. He too was subdued. Chidchai Vanasatidya and Prommin Lertsuridej were unable to launch any sort of counter effort.


Thaksin's wife Khunying Pojaman Shinawatra was supposed to take a 12am flight to Singapore on Tuesday night. She quickly changed her flight to 9pm. Well, Gen Sonthi had to let her off the hook.


Twenty-five minutes later, knowing that his wife was safely on an aircraft bound for Singapore, Thaksin read out his state of emergency address from his New York hotel room, effectively sacking General Sonthi .


But an hour later, General Sonthi declared a counter-coup to overthrow the Thaksin regime and tear up the Constitution.


The rest is history.


Thanong Khanthong


The Nation
 
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pleang sney

Guest
awww....i just see that the king bhumibol left the government to the generals and thaksin doesn't want do politics no more...i'm really sad for them...wait to see the future
 
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Preahya

sarNie Hatchling
Reagan said:
Preahya - where did you get this information?
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I read it on Interlove and afterward, I went to the Nation`s website to read it myself since the person in Interlove did the same thing that I did on here...copy and paste! :lol: Umm, I remembered finding it at the end of the webpage...the writer`s name is on the bottom of the the copy and paste article!! So the credit go to the NATION (THAILAND)`s website (sorry, I googled them so I can`t remember the website addy)!!
 
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