[Ch3] Bpoop Phaeh Saniwaat (Broadcast Thai) : Pope Thanawat / Bella Ranee

Chario mintmario

Chario mintmario

sarNie Adult
Rosi said:
@naimisha @lakornkiki @phatman @Rachfull Wow you guys are so fascinating, you've watched so many and able to pick the quality ones. Where was I the last 10 years???!! Ahhhhhh...... But ok better late than never. Am making a list now of all these names you're giving - the Thai ones, because I'm watching Latin & European movies too. Strangely didn't you manage to fall in love with any of the other heroes? Por Date, Got .... they're filling up every woman's dreams now.
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I would add one more korean series in this iconic list. I'm surprised Thai hasn't thought of remaking "Reply" series of korean. Reply 1997, Reply 1994, and Reply 1988...all 3 were big hits. It's interesting because the concept is unique. They do not show the events in sequential order. One moment we see them in 2005 and the next scene we might see them showing event from 1997 etc....And we keep guessing who is the husband of the female lead. It was hella fun.
 
Rachfull

Rachfull

sarNie Oldmaid
Rosi said:
@naimisha @lakornkiki @phatman @Rachfull Wow you guys are so fascinating, you've watched so many and able to pick the quality ones. Where was I the last 10 years???!! Ahhhhhh...... But ok better late than never. Am making a list now of all these names you're giving - the Thai ones, because I'm watching Latin & European movies too. Strangely didn't you manage to fall in love with any of the other heroes? Por Date, Got .... they're filling up every woman's dreams now.
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Ha ha I've only been watching Thailand for three years. I lived in Kdramaland from 2012-2013, left, then got into Thailand in 2015 and only get more and more obsessed :risas3: I try to keep up to date with my dramas and search for ones I think will be good or that other people have said are good. I also read a lot from my fellow foreigner viewers :thumbup: I'm far from being an expert though. I just hear the big names because only they make it to the international community
 
Rachfull

Rachfull

sarNie Oldmaid
Rachfull said:
Iconic? Does it matter which country? Because there's both the Korean and Thai Full House--Full House Thai was popular in its time, but I think it's more iconic among international fans. I know it's the lakorn that introduced me to Thai dramas, as is the case with a lot of foreign viewers. I didn't even know lakorns existed until I ran across it on youtube :risas3: The Korean/original version will always be iconic, as it contributed to the spread of Hallyu. Goong/Princess Hours (NOT the Thai version-- that one sucked) would definitely be considered iconic. My Princess, Coffee Prince, Secret Garden, Sungkyunkwan Scandal (all Korean) are iconic and AWESOME dramas. I know Descendants of the Sun was insanely popular, but Idk if it'll be considered iconic.

Taiwan's It Started With A Kiss and the sequel They Kiss Again are definitely iconic. The story itself, Itazura Na Kiss, was a manga series that was made into an anime, three Japanese dramas, three Taiwanese dramas, a Korean drama, and a Thai drama. I thought the original Taiwanese version was the best, but others like the Thai version.

As for iconic Thai dramas, I don't know if I'm fully qualified to discuss them, since I usually shun the older dramas. The new ones are more westernized, which makes them more understandable and relatable for me. I speculate that the 4 Huajai Haeng Koon Kao series could be considered iconic, and perhaps Anne's Sood Sanaeha. Kluen Cheewit 2017 is iconic among international fans, I know it was a number of foreigners' first Thai drama. Perhaps Pin Anong as well, and Tawipob.

Now that you mention it, I'm surprised that Thailand hasn't remade Boys Over Flowers. They've done Coffee Prince, I know, Itazura Na Kiss, Autumn in My Heart, Goong, Full House, and Secret Garden (which is in the works). You'd think they'd do BOF :confused12:
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I missed two remakes: My Love From Another Star and You're My Destiny. How could I forget???
 
Rachfull

Rachfull

sarNie Oldmaid
Chario mintmario said:
I would add one more korean series in this iconic list. I'm surprised Thai hasn't thought of remaking "Reply" series of korean. Reply 1997, Reply 1994, and Reply 1988...all 3 were big hits. It's interesting because the concept is unique. They do not show the events in sequential order. One moment we see them in 2005 and the next scene we might see them showing event from 1997 etc....And we keep guessing who is the husband of the female lead. It was hella fun.
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Oh yes those. I never watched them myself, they were too melodramatic for me. Maybe I should go back and watch them sometime...
 
Chario mintmario

Chario mintmario

sarNie Adult
Rachfull said:
Oh yes those. I never watched them myself, they were too melodramatic for me. Maybe I should go back and watch them sometime...
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I only watched Reply 1997 and it was so funny...lol. But the other two got even higher rating. It seems like the later one top the previous one in terms of buzz and rating. But they have the same format. It's actually so realistic for korean audiences of all ages. They could relate really well especially when they showed events that happened in the past...people feel nostalgia.
 
DaoRisa

DaoRisa

Love has nothing to do with bodies.
Amata said:
@Chario mintmario @Rosi @phatman

I have read the poems that you share many times compared with the Thai version. I think the person who translated and wrote these poems are very good at the Thai language, Thai poetry and the English Language. But there are some lines that I’m not certain, so I ‘ll talk about them only from my angle. For this Jaanwaad’s poem the content covers the Thai version.

Janward's poem:
The lowly moon is out-shined by the sunlight
Makes her light not bright like before
Plus the clouds obstruct her way like the wall
I, then, know my place. It's as low as the floor (ground)

Hidden Meaning : Jaanwaad was in the mood of being offended.

Seeing what happened to the Moon, Jaanwaad thought of herself. Even it was so high in the sky, the moon was not able to shine fully because of the sunlight and the clouds. Then herself just was on the ground, she should not hope or dream of anything that maybe impossible or too far for her to grab it like, to win Date’s heart or to be his spouse.


Date's poem:
Though the moon is blocked and out-shined
Flocks of birds still chirp, praise her high
So the moon does care the clouds. why?
The little star shall fly to fight along with the moon

As I told you, I think the last line of Date’s poem that you posted here is different from mine. It maybe because of my poor English, skill on Thai poetry and my imagination. I haven’t understand it all yet. So I don’t mind if there is anyone see different.

Interpretation

The Sun is going down and the Moon is obscured by the clouds.
Birds still accept the influence of the Moon. When it comes, they chirp flying back to their nests.
So why does the Moon have to care for the clouds.
Even the star does not dare to compete with the moon.

Hidden Meaning : Date wanted to comfort Jaanwaad. (Her name’s meaning is about the Moon as well.
Jaan = The Moon, Waad = Draw

From her Klon, after seeing what happened to the Moon, Jaanwaad compared herself that she was as low as the ground. But in Date’s Klon, he compared her as the Moon. Although it was obscured by the clouds, it still had influence on lives on the Earth. The moonlight didn’t grow bright to the sky because of the sunlight but its light was brighter than stars. So they were the stars had to be humble, didn’t dare to go along the moon. (Stars here, Date might mean himself or any other men.)
All in all Date would like to tell Jaanwaad that she wasn’t so low as the ground and she might not meet the right man yet)

The red sentence I may interpret further than the content.


Kade’s poem (Klon)

For Kade’s Klon I have translated and talked about it already. I hope you don’t mind if I am talking about only the hidden meaning.
For the contexts of this scene between the book and the lakorn are different, so I’m starting with the context in the book first.

Hidden meaning in the book

In the book it is clear that the Moon in Kade’s klon, Kade meant Jaanwaad. After Jaaward read her Klon in the mood of being offended. Date comforted Jaanward but Kade saw that just Date’s Klong was not enough so she turned to Jaanwaad and cited this Klong. That made their relationship better. When Jaanwaad was leaving for her home. They walked to the pier together.

Hidden meaning in the lakorn

The context in the Lakorn is more complicated than the book. In the lakorn Kade was forced to do it. In order to understand Kade’s situation, I need to repeat some conversation in the scene to see that who forced her.

After Janward and Por Date wrote and read their Khlongs.

Kadesurang - Jeeab Kan Yan Klong Klon. ( It means “to flirt with each other even from Klong Klon /poetry)

Kosa Pan - Mae Karakade, aren’t you joining in?
Por Date - She never does it. No one knows if she can write poetry or not.
But it seems like she can’t.
Muen Rueang - Won’t you compete? Mae Karakade
Kade - Compete what, Muen Rueang?
Muen Rueang - This (look at a slate in front of him). You can write Khlong or Klon. (up to you)
Kade - If it is Klon Pratoo I would be able to do it. (Kade was joking)
- Pratoo = Door. Klon that she said she meant bolt for locking the door. This word is the same spelling and pronunciation as Klon (Poetry)

Muen Rueang - Laugh
………………………

Ko sa Lek Being insulted like this, won’t you try?

Khun Lung Called a servant to take a slate with pencil stone for Kade. That pushed her in pressure to do something.

Actually Kade had tried to tell them that she could not write any poem but people in Ayutthay Era didn' know. If you were a Thai living in Thailand now. When you ask anyone to write poetry and they say “If it is Klon Pratoo I would be able to do it” That means they cannot write it so you don’t have to ask them again. This sentence is not just a joke.

To be continued

Kade was forced to do it. No one knew if she thought about the Klon and who was her moon walking on the ground. But while she was reading, she often looked at Date not Jaanwaad. So let me guess. After Kade listened to both Jaanwaad and Date’s Klongs. She would like to tell both of them that why you had to care for the Moon on the sky. It was far way, too high to grab. Why don’t you find the moon walking on the ground, it was more beautiful. Though it was hard to find, it was on earth. If you tried you would find one.

So let the listeners think by themselves who was their moon walking on the ground. In this scene there would be one, his moon walking on the ground sitting in front of him.

I do hope this would make true fans of BPS enjoy this scene more.

Sorry I made some mistakes but I have corrected them.
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Oh my......you did a very great job describing it. Thanks for sharing.
 
neenavaj

neenavaj

sarNie Adult
Rosi said:
Seriously who makes up the most handsome heroes - Thai, Korean or Chinese?
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Hmm...this is a good debate...for me personally, it would be Thai. They look the most manly/normal to me, like for example, I can probably find someone who looks like Pope walking around my neighborhood. Lol I like these type of actors, to me it’s both handsome and real. Korean and Chinese actors *of this generation* they are waaaaaayyyy too beautiful...in some ways, high maintenance...I can only dream of them, won’t ever get to see them since they are hiding behind a doctor’s mask or exiting out the secret airport door lmao. I have followed Korean, Thai and Chinese actors and to me, Thai actors seem most down to earth/super chill. They are the actors I most want to hang with. Even BTS is enjoyable to watch because there is no bubble between their costars, its a different level compared to if you watch a Korean/Chinese OTP off screen. The chemistry on and off screen for Thai OTPs is real. Handsome to me isn’t about the face as much as the person.
 
phatman

phatman

POPE's #1 MIA LUANG
lakornkiki said:
Sorry I am a little late in reply but THANK YOU so much for this. I did find it and saw both male and female versions of the song. I love the original because Kong's voice is so sweet and warm but I like Bodyslam version too.

I also liked this cover.

Can you tell I listened and watch this song's different versions since Got lip-sync it in the car? It took me a few days to get that song out of my head.
What's up with Hot Got and sappy oldie songs anyway? LOL
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Oo. It's a nice song. Where did this song come from? From Got's IG post?? Haha.
 
neenavaj

neenavaj

sarNie Adult
@naimisha...Iconic lakorns...if you are new to lakorns their are a few like BPS, Hormones, Bang Rajan, Nakee and more but I don’t particularly like the most recent ones. I grew up watching Thai dramas in the 90s. During that time I thought they had the best stories but those you won’t be able to find in either high quality or eng sub. Iconic to me is: Manee Yard Fah, Fah Pieng Din, Oum Ruk, Samee, Jam Leuy Ruk, Ban Sai Thong, Koo Gum, Ngao Asok, Kaew Lum Korn, Leard Kattiya, Roy Leh Sanae Rai and so many more I have lost count.
 
Rosi

Rosi

Wifey #42
neenavaj said:
Hmm...this is a good debate...for me personally, it would be Thai. They look the most manly/normal to me, like for example, I can probably find someone who looks like Pope walking around my neighborhood. Lol I like these type of actors, to me it’s both handsome and real. Korean and Chinese actors *of this generation* they are waaaaaayyyy too beautiful...in some ways, high maintenance...I can only dream of them, won’t ever get to see them since they are hiding behind a doctor’s mask or exiting out the secret airport door lmao. I have followed both Korean, Thai and Chinese actors and to me, Thai actors seem most down to earth/super chill. They are the actors I most want to hang with. Even BTS is enjoyable to watch because there is no bubble between their costars, its a different level compared to if you watch a Korean/Chinese OTP off screen. The chemistry on and off screen for Thai OTPs is real. Handsome to me isn’t about the face as much as the person.
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I was also thinking Thai because they've got all kinds of built; and looks or skin tone isn't just it. They also seem to have lots of fun when off screen, being natural & not always dressed to kill ready for that sudden snapshot. And they're manly.
 
Rosi

Rosi

Wifey #42
(I am actually behind since page 985, I seem to be rereading new posts & missed on some pages)

Just watch tonight's episode but waiting for @phatman's more exciting list - which is the extended scene?

There's a beautiful night scene today; Kade going to her Khun P & asking him to take her money to buy the nets. Jumpa didn't allow it so she's using him as go between. They're both so gorgeous in the dim lighting at the pier but with him being reserved as usual. When Kade placed the moneybag in his hand Date was staring more at her hand holding his than the bag being there, and when he got the chance to catch at her hand & hold on to it, he did! The way he did it made it all so very romantic.

I like that Date's deliberately patient with her use of words; she made the mistake of calling money in modern terms - and he waited, he didn't scold her the way he did with the "ta wen". He's really trying to win her this time.

I wasn't paying attention before - but it looks that Constantine did paid off the padre!! The guy's asked to say all he could to convince Malee to marry him. Horrible padre!!
 
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