[Ch3] Kluen Cheevit (Lakorn Thai) Mark Prin/Yaya Urassaya

Ncmeowmeow35

sarNie Oldmaid
m9saeteurn1 said:
I agree! Why Mark!? UGH, his acting sucks (my opinions of course)
Loving Yaya's fashions in here. Beautiful! She def. can throw the sexy look on
Well Yaya isn't all that great either so I think they will balance each other well. This lakorn will be good, it'll challenge them.
 

chaitra

sarNie Adult
Dear Nangfah11,
 
I know your one of the regulars of this particular page "Kluen Cheevit" so we all are glad that we all get to hangout here and discuss about this lakorn. This is a peaceful site and I think most of us come here to catch the latest updates of our favorites, to relax and have a good time.
 
There is absolutely nothing wrong in posting your opinions on this site but we would be really grateful if you would kindly write the posts in a positive manner. When your posting something in an open forum which "insists" that we keep the environment peaceful and happy its better not to make such statements about someone who is adored by many people. Moreover, it is better not to posts things that would to lead to fan-wars rather than discussions. 
 
I have read your earlier posts and its pretty clear you support Mark and wouldn't want to listen anything against him. But just like you, there are so many people here who also love and adore Yaya (including me) and would not want to listen to anything against her. 
 
It is a simple request Nangfah11 and I hope you oblige. We appreciate your support for the lakorn and hope we get to discuss about this lakorn till its end. 
 
Wishing you the very best and hope you have a good day  :)
 

Ncmeowmeow35

sarNie Oldmaid
Wow talk about double standards.

chaitra said:
Dear Nangfah11,
 
I know your one of the regulars of this particular page "Kluen Cheevit" so we all are glad that we all get to hangout here and discuss about this lakorn. This is a peaceful site and I think most of us come here to catch the latest updates of our favorites, to relax and have a good time.
 
There is absolutely nothing wrong in posting your opinions on this site but we would be really grateful if you would kindly write the posts in a positive manner. When your posting something in an open forum which "insists" that we keep the environment peaceful and happy its better not to make such statements about someone who is adored by many people. Moreover, it is better not to posts things that would to lead to fan-wars rather than discussions. 
 
I have read your earlier posts and its pretty clear you support Mark and wouldn't want to listen anything against him. But just like you, there are so many people here who also love and adore Yaya (including me) and would not want to listen to anything against her. 
 
It is a simple request Nangfah11 and I hope you oblige. We appreciate your support for the lakorn and hope we get to discuss about this lakorn till its end. 
 
Wishing you the very best and hope you have a good day  :)
 

m9saeteurn1

sarNie Adult
Little kid Nangfah11 - If me DISLIKING Mark make me a hater then so be it! Sorry, but not sorry that I don't find your "pra'ek" cute let alone handsome! Pssss Again that was my opinion!!! Get that right!
haha we both are haterz right? Since you're claiming Yaya's acting is horrible? lol AND who's the blind eye here? Ahuh YOU!
 
@Ncmeownmewo35 I never said Yaya was a good actress. Yes, I adore her and love her but of course she can be better BUT at least she's tolerable to watch.
 

chaitra

sarNie Adult
Nangfah11 said:
 
LOL!

WORD.
 
Because people make it sound like she's good, but no, she's really bad. God, I don't even want to talk about it!
 
This is exactly what I mean Nangfah11.
 
The people who "make it sound like she's good" are mostly present on this site and you are calling out to them by saying such things. If anyone reads my post I think they will know that its vice-verse, i.e there are many who support Mark and to make statements against him will just make this an awful experience for people who come here to enjoy. I care about Yaya so I spoke for her
 
Judging a person's acting is everyone's choice but given the fact that a lot of people are going to be reading your posts it would be better if it were represented more in a positive way.
 
This was just a mere request. I don't mean to offend you in anyway or let alone make you think that I am attacking you in anyway.
 
Thank you. Have a good night :)
 

Ncmeowmeow35

sarNie Oldmaid
chaitra said:
This is exactly what I mean Nangfah11.
 
The people who "make it sound like she's good" are mostly present on this site and you are calling out to them by saying such things. If anyone reads my post I think they will know that its vice-verse, i.e there are many who support Mark and to make statements against him will just make this an awful experience for people who come here to enjoy. I care about Yaya so I spoke for her. 
 
Judging a person's acting is everyone's choice but given the fact that a lot of people are going to be reading your posts it would be better if it were represented more in a positive way.
 
This was just a mere request. I don't mean to offend you in anyway or let alone make you think that I am attacking you in anyway.
 
Thank you. Have a good night :)
Sorry but let me "seuk" here. I'm not siding with Nangfa because of Mark but seems like you are calling her out unfairly. She was responding to another member who said Mark's acting suck. Then you come in here and write her this letter saying she is being negative to someone you favor and practically demand that she stop it. I wouldn't say anything if you were being fair and ask the other person to do the same but you didn't. I call that double standard. She has the right, the same as you and others to voice her opinions.
 

m9saeteurn1

sarNie Adult
Just because I and some of the other feels that Mark's acting is not tolerable to watch nor is is godly looking, that make it okay for her to call us a haters? Um no I don't think so. This site is all base on everyone's opinions so if we don't like his acting, then we dont like his acting. Simple as that. I ain't butt hurt she called me a hater bc I could careless what she think of me because that's I how feel about her "pra'ek". AND I ain't stopping you Nangfah, so say what you gotta say. Btw, GLAD to see you LOVE my words :p It must have left a mark on ya. lol
 
Sorry Chaitra
 

cookiies

sarNie Juvenile
Seriously, let us just move on. Instead of arguing with each other let's wait and support these two instead. 
All actors and actress need to learn more about acting, not all can act perfect. Even people who have been in the ET 
for a long time still need time to learn more about things. So lets wait and see if both Mark and Yaya will be able to handle 
these kind of character. 
 
I have hope for these two and I have a feeling that these two will be able to do it ^^ 
 

m9saeteurn1

sarNie Adult
Nangfah11 said:
 
FOR YOUR INFORMATION! I NEVER BROUGHT IT TO YOUR FACE THAT YOU WERE "THE HATER!" GET IT RIGHT?!!?!?!?!?!?!?!??!?!?!!?
 
The haters are obvious with their abusive and non-healthy comments. I do NOT need to bother going through and list out ever ABUSIVE comments that come off as HATER!
 
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If you want to see a positive and healthy comment, then show one yourself. If not, and you think you're the only ONE capable of abusing another actor with downgrading comments, then anyone can do the same to yours!!!
 
You called, "Mark's acting SUCK!" and if I were to say the same thing, "Yaya's acting SUCK!" Why is it that my comment bothered you or CHAITRA to the point that she's BEGGING for a "PEACEFUL" comment when you're the one who started with the negative comment first!
 
Please! You act like I am stupid? Who else would you be directing it too? HUH? IF you wanna call someone a hater why don't you BLUNTLY quote them instead of beating it around the bush! AND no please go back to few pages before you state that I started this. Um, I believe you were the first to call someone a hater once again bc they stated their opinions. If you feel the need to defend Mark so can Chaitra. And, how did I know that you were gonna come attacking me once I said that? Lmao
 

m9saeteurn1

sarNie Adult
Nangfah11 said:
Why do some people act like they're gonna die when Mark is announced in a lakorn. ugly people always have ugly things to say. How stupid and inconsiderate!
 Here let me QUOTE it for you!!! How easily offended you are just bc we don't find your dara our favorites! Calling ppl ugly, stupid and inconsiderate? smdh Find us a thread and we shall transfer :)
 

chaitra

sarNie Adult
Ncmeowmeow35 said:
Sorry but let me "seuk" here. I'm not siding with Nangfa because of Mark but seems like you are calling her out unfairly. She was responding to another member who said Mark's acting suck. Then you come in here and write her this letter saying she is being negative to someone you favor and practically demand that she stop it. I wouldn't say anything if you were being fair and ask the other person to do the same but you didn't. I call that double standard. She has the right, the same as you and others to voice her opinions.
 
1. I dint demand. Maybe you need to read my post again.
2. "she was responding to another member who said Mark's acting sucks" .. Well that's exactly what I did when she commented about Yaya, at least I was polite. 
3. I have never seen Mark's acting and also I have never ever commented about him. I care for Yaya so I spoke for her. I just requested for a peaceful atmosphere so I think that includes people need not bring down Mark. But since I don't know anything about him, I dint feel the need to speak about him because I have never seen him act. 
4. "She has the right"??? : I never asked her not to post. Did I? I just requested her.
 
Nangfah11 said:
if you CHAITRA and m9saeteurn1 can raise your abusive and non-healthy opinion here. I don't see how anyone else can't! 
 
 
there you go!
 
Everyone is entitled to their opinion.
 
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If you demand for equality, you must do the same to others. If you're Yaya's fan and you demand for positive comments, then you NEED to do the same for Mark. Or else, you're a hypocrite for not showing the same respect, when you can't even respect other actors.
 
1. Abusive and non healthy??? You need to bring your temper down or you need to read my post again. Your choice.
2. I dint demand for equality. Like I said, I don't know anything about Mark to say anything about him.
3.  "Or else, you're a hypocrite for not showing the same respect, when you can't even respect other actors."    I think this should apply to you first.
 
Nangfah11 said:
 
FOR YOUR INFORMATION! I NEVER BROUGHT IT TO YOUR FACE THAT YOU WERE "THE HATER!" GET IT RIGHT?!!?!?!?!?!?!?!??!?!?!!?
 
The haters are obvious with their abusive and non-healthy comments. I do NOT need to bother going through and list out ever ABUSIVE comments that come off as HATER!
 
~~~
 
If you want to see a positive and healthy comment, then show one yourself. If not, and you think you're the only ONE capable of abusing another actor with downgrading comments, then anyone can do the same to yours!!!
 
You called, "Mark's acting SUCK!" and if I were to say the same thing, "Yaya's acting SUCK!" Why is it that my comment bothered you or CHAITRA to the point that she's BEGGING for a "PEACEFUL" comment when you're the one who started with the negative comment first!
 
1. "If you want to see a positive and healthy comment, then show one yourself."  I think I did, by being polite. But maybe you don't like "positive" and "healthy" . I cant and don't want to say anything about Mark even if it is positive or negative because I don't know him and don't wanna know him.
2. I was being "POLITE" to you not begging you. Maybe you don't understand things and your sooooooo confused that you look at everything in a negative way. 
 
cookiies said:
Seriously, let us just move on. Instead of arguing with each other let's wait and support these two instead. 
All actors and actress need to learn more about acting, not all can act perfect. Even people who have been in the ET 
for a long time still need time to learn more about things. So lets wait and see if both Mark and Yaya will be able to handle 
these kind of character. 
 
I have hope for these two and I have a feeling that these two will be able to do it ^^ 
:dude: LET US MOVE ON.
 

Ncmeowmeow35

sarNie Oldmaid
chaitra said:
1. I dint demand. Maybe you need to read my post again.
2. "she was responding to another member who said Mark's acting sucks" .. Well that's exactly what I did when she commented about Yaya, at least I was polite. 
3. I have never seen Mark's acting and also I have never ever commented about him. I care for Yaya so I spoke for her. I just requested for a peaceful atmosphere so I think that includes people need not bring down Mark. But since I don't know anything about him, I dint feel the need to speak about him because I have never seen him act. 
4. "She has the right"??? : I never asked her not to post. Did I? I just requested her.
 

 
1. Abusive and non healthy??? You need to bring your temper down or you need to read my post again. Your choice.
2. I dint demand for equality. Like I said, I don't know anything about Mark to say anything about him.
3.  "Or else, you're a hypocrite for not showing the same respect, when you can't even respect other actors."    I think this should apply to you first.
 

 
1. "If you want to see a positive and healthy comment, then show one yourself."  I think I did, by being polite. But maybe you don't like "positive" and "healthy" . I cant and don't want to say anything about Mark even if it is positive or negative because I don't know him and don't wanna know him.
2. I was being "POLITE" to you not begging you. Maybe you don't understand things and your sooooooo confused that you look at everything in a negative way. 
 

:dude: LET US MOVE ON.
BUt your request didn't include the others because you wrote the post directly to Nangfah. I did reread it before I even comment. You may not use the words, but you asked her and only her. To me that sounds a bit demanding and unfair. They were both wrong and both were negative, not just Nangfah but because you are biased since you favor only Yaya, it came off as unfair. You may think you were being polite and nice but to me it came off as rude and mean. Just my opinion.

Happy to move on because it is going no where.
 

m9saeteurn1

sarNie Adult
Lmao it's impossible to say it in a nice way and you STILL not be offended. A blind eye fan like you would still feel the need to retaliate with "Yaya's acting is horrible" (even though we know deep down inside you love her) just because you need something to say. haha, Am I right?
And for once something I do agree with...
Both Mark and Yaya aren't the best acting people. They both need room to grow. They need to improve.
 
Okay, guess I am done venting. I rest my case. LoL
 
Sorry to all the "other ppl" here that had to read!
 

aiyaja

sarNie OldFart
Dang, things got heated fast. :coverlaf:
 
Anyway, I hope this lakorn doesn't disappoint because judging from the fitting, Yaya can pull off the maturity, sexiness, and confidence extremely well, effortlessly too. I've only been impressed by Yaya in three lakorns, DJA, GRGR, and the Rising Sun, despite the lack of storyline. All of the rest, Yaya was too cutesy but hey, why not? Yaya is still at that age where she can still do cutesy without looking inappropriate and you're only young once, so go all in. I'm still waiting to watch NNS and see how much she has improved.
 
I think it's healthy to point out weaknesses of actors and actresses. I don't find those opinions abusive or offensive at all. Now, if you troll around every thread complaining about how that certain celebrity you dislike always receives roles when they're not fit or that someone else is better, then, you're not being objective anymore, that's straight out hating that celebrity, personally.
 
I know that both Mark and Yaya fans don't want to hear what a weak actor/actress they still are going into their 5th or 6th year of acting, but you have to accept that and actually appreciate that at least non-fans are kind enough to voice their feedback, which means, they're paying attention for whatever reason that may be. The majority of comments I've seen that say Yaya and Mark still needs to improve on their acting comes from non-fans, which is perfectly fine. Yaya and Mark fans need to admit that because you're a fan, your opinion may be a bit subjective and uninteionally, biased. I mean, the lakorn ratings are not just generated from Yaya or Mark fans, they're generated by a larger public audience who honestly, have a truer and more objective opinion of the lakorn and acting of the cast. Likewise here. When random people who normally don't follow Mark or Yaya voice their opinions based on what they've seen, don't be so defensive because they're really not here to argue with you, not here to become a fan of Mark or Yaya, not here to listen to you preach about how great of an actress/actor you think Mark or Yaya is, they're just here to voice their honest opinion and move on as a LAKORN fan in the end. They're not haters, they're not fans, you don't have to fall into one or the other to voice your opinion. We're all lakorn fans in the end, so let's not take things so seriously.
 
 
 

chaitra

sarNie Adult
Nangfah11 said:
 
 
True. I wrote that when some random fan had abused Mark prior to me writing that. If I were to say the same exact thing about Yaya, which I still DO NOT find her acting tolerable then I am BEGGED by her fans to PLEASE BE PEACEFUL!
 
Disclaimer: Watch what you say. If you want a respectful and positive comment, do the same for others. If you think calling another actor names is okay, then anyone can do the same back to you.
 
Both Mark and Yaya aren't the best acting people. They both need room to grow. They need to improve. If you simply don't like someone's acting, state it in a positive manner. If you think you can just abuse that actor, the same thing can be done to yours.
 
PRACTICE WHAT YOU PREACH
 
If could bring your temper down, i think Mark and Yaya might just find the room to grow. 
 
 
"If you simply don't like someone's acting, state it in a positive manner. If you think you can just abuse that actor, the same thing can be done to yours"
 
WOW look who is trying to be positive.
 

cecilia

Staff member
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ceda_lee

sarNie OldFart
Thanks Ceci!  
 
I'm loving that dress on Yaya!  But...you can see her pantie lines. :coverlaf:  I don't know why that bothers me.  Yaya is so slim.  Mark looks so sharp in a tux.  I hope he plays the character just as sharp.  And I'm sooooooo ready to see Yaya play a serious, dark character.  
 
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