...I rest my case. I think we all see that there are good reasons to accept Christianity is true. I presented many evidence for Christianity and we see no good reasons to reject it. Thus, my arguments still stand.
No, not all. But whatever makes you happy.I rest my case. I think we all see that there are good reasons to accept Christianity is true. I presented many evidence for Christianity and we see no good reasons to reject it. Thus, my arguments still stand.
Then how do you account for the existence of the universe? If God does not create the universe, what is your other alternative to this--that the universe is god, everything is god? Please do explain. I'm a Christian and i find Pantheism seriously wrong. If it were true, it wouldn't be wrong to worship rocks and trees.To be honest, I don't know what religion I belong to. I do believe that a god exist but I do not believe that he created the world.
Look around you and see that 90% of the things you see has a creator.Oh gosh...really?
Haha.
:lmao2:Then how do you account for the existence of the universe? If God does not create the universe, what is your other alternative to this--that the universe is god, everything is god? Please do explain. I'm a Christian and i find Pantheism seriously wrong. If it were true, it wouldn't be wrong to worship rocks and trees.
However, it is wrong according to the Christian worldview, because God is a personal being separated from His creation. We are to worship God only, not the creation. God is the necessary preconditions for intelligibility, that God's transcendent mind is what we discovered when we look at and discovered the principles of the universe. Not only can God be proven, however, denying His existence undermines rationality.
It depend on how you define the word evolution. The way evolution work is through the action of natural selection acting on mutations etc. Population change in response to environmental pressure and they become adapted to the environment, thus changing over time.:lmao2:
So are you denying evolution because you believe that god created Earth?
Let's talk about Shamanism & Christianism. Which one has better options in life? =)
I chose Christianism over shamanism because they have better stories. haha!
And Shamanism is just too scary in a way. I heard that demon is Shaman Shi Yig's younger brother. They betrayed God so God kicked them out of the heaven includes those that betrayed him also. So they were lost in the world of jungle. This is why we have ghost appear physically for some people that could see. Demon was once an angel but lawv tau hloov siab hloov ntsws thiab coj phem thiab ntxeev siab rau vaj tswv. Lawv thiaj li dhau mus ua demons lawm. =)
My gosh, I am shamanist and we have "xwm kab" and "dab thaiv vaj tse" and etc. I think this is bothering me now. I just want to believe in god and live peacefully. Oh and you know what? I heard that demons were the ones to destroy people and life. They can act like humans and have knowledge like humans but they may not have flesh like humans. They can also go into human's body to possess them on whichever way if they choose or find you. But you know, demon obey god even though they have lost their home of heaven. It's the law. They can't disobey him even now. When you become a christian, you are avoiding those demons to get out of your way which is a good thing. Because you have god in you. The demons can't be near. It's like God nyob qhov twg ces ntxw nyoog nyob tsis tau qhov ntawd. Yups=) (sorry if im too poor at telling) hehe..
Omg and you know what is the worse ever about a shaman? especially when they do the jingle bell and most of them shaman gives you random interpretation. You see when you have to go saib yaig and this one said something else and the other one said something more and that one said another thing..(thats for example) now you see..so its all interpretation, shaman cant be real when it comes to healing! This is like..omg..wth it seems fake and i used to believe in whatever they tell my parents about it. Now I was ill for about almost a year and my parents ua neeb kho kuv and this is what the shaman told them "oh, koj tus ntxhais yuav ua neeb" LMAO! this cracked me up heck of bad and I didn't believe on this. Because i believe in something else which is god. =D (if something you dont believe it and if you chose not to. That is magical and it works in a way) And guess what? I am fine now and my sickness has gone alot better than usual. Because I set my faith and i pray independently. I could careless for what the shaman has told me..i wont fall into that stupid thing. There's a verse in the bible said that god forgives you and your sin when it comes near to death and nothing can be heal when you just wanna commit a crime but god said its not good to do that. One best way is to come believe in him and give up yourself and pray to him then he will see you and heal your wound. You will be cure when you begin to communicate with him spiritually. (that happens if you really believe so) Now for the shaman way. It's harder you have to do more things to heal your wounds. hahah! and you knew it! You got to use money and shit..go find pigs and chickens and dogs to replace your sin. That sucks because you still have to use money, you see? But for god, he don't need that. He only need your faith in your heart.
So my question is, why do we need to believe in shaman/demons? When they are the worse?? They ruin your life and everything. This seem like depending yes but we need to see that they are evils in our eyes. They used trick to play humans and we could fall for it. =( etc.. Oh and i almost forgot to mention this too, demons were the one that tso kev mob kev nkeeg los rau ntiaj teb thiab tib neeg. They make you sick and then you will have to seek for them back and forth and it just like they are using or playing you?? this is sick! (just like love, the one that play your heart haha) They are evils and will always be. =( That's a sin of demons and god won't forgive them. God has planned to renew the earth. But i dont know when that will comes.
And back to the topic, i think when you become believing in god. You will find your route when you died. =) but of this, im not 99% sure for those that are non-believer..hmm..where do they go? (i think i know the answer but unsure) i always hear this from the OG "cov neeg coj zoo thiab ua zoo yuav tau ntuj ntoo thiab mus cuag ntuj ceeb tsheej hos cov ua coj phem thiab tais ntuj yuav poob mus rau ntuj tsaus" and i do not understand the meaning of this. its kinda of confusing, very hard to picturize too. i need more details.
this shit is too much and everything is twisting in alot of ways...it just dont make sense
okay, this thread is not for you to get piss off!
i thought i should share n i need feedbacks from u too
and again i am a shamanist i still follow with my parents and i respect that... so dont ask me why or how i get converted ok? its part of my personal belief. you cant understand
again I am beginner only so i still have a long way to go through.
if there is something i have said wrong, let me know and reply it nicely. or else i will be ignoring your response.
I have been thinking for sometime before respond to this post. Like some of you said this is an interesting and sinsitive topic. I also agree with many of you that every religions is good as long as we believe in it. I haven't see actual proof of all so it is difficult to believe everything is 100% true. Every religion raise question in people's mind and I think it is okay since we never experience it. I have never die and coming back to live so I can't say what I believe it 100% true, but I think it is reasonable to have religion to help explain many things that science can't explain and whichever religion we chose to use it is up to our own choice. I'm raised in a shamanism family and I see that what we have pratice for so many years is good for us because it makes sense to us. But one thing that I'm strongly believe is "what goes around comes around" (doing good will recieve good and doing bad will recieve bad). No one can't save us from our sin because it is a debt that we need to pay regardless (apply to people that believe life after dead).
I respect all religions because it is a like philosophy to make life more meaningful for people. I also agree with one of the memeber that religion should teach us to love, forgive and respect others. However, I just don't like the idea of putting other religion down because one thinks his/her religion is better. As I mentioned I don't think anyone of us had die or born with past memory to remember which one is better or the right religion.
But one thing I always hear from Christianism is that God is the father of everyone on Earth, but he only forgive people who believe in him. This statement always raise a question in mind that if god is the father of everyone then he should forgive everyone who believe or doesn't believe in him and punished those that doing bad to others and save those that are doing good. A good father is to love all his children regarless if they believe him or not as long as they don't hurt other, he will help them. But a father who only love the children that follow his words and do what he says and he will protect them regarless if they are doing bad things to other; careless about the children that are doing good thing just that they don't believe in him which I'm not sure if he is the true father of everyone...therefore True God will forgive people who believe or don't believe in him and protect them as long as they are good people...[/b]
Is that so? I think you have been misinformed. Scripture teach that we become children of God only when we receive Him - John 1:12. In one sense, God is the creator of all people. However, in another sense, He is only a Father to those who receive Him.But one thing I always hear from Christianism is that God is the father of everyone on Earth, but he only forgive people who believe in him. This statement always raise a question in mind that if god is the father of everyone then he should forgive everyone who believe or doesn't believe in him and punished those that doing bad to others and save those that are doing good.
No, I just refute your claim. Anyway, where in scripture does it say that?A good father is to love all his children regarless if they believe him or not as long as they don't hurt other, he will help them. But a father who only love the children that follow his words and do what he says and he will protect them regarless if they are doing bad things to other; careless about the children that are doing good thing just that they don't believe in him which I'm not sure if he is the true father of everyone...
Your conclusion does not follow your unsupported premise. You only want to say what you want to say.therefore True God will forgive people who believe or don't believe in him and protect them as long as they are good people...
Sorry this was a copy. Need to delete this post.
That's unsubstantiated claim. You should think over again.I love this part right here. It's what I've been thinking for a while now but couldn't really sum it up as good as you and I agree on everything you said.