[Ch5] Koo Kum (Exact)

[looksy]

i constantly remind myself that this is just a drama. but most of the time it's almost impossible to convince myself of such conviction. :secret:

 
Thank goodness that Koo Kum is fiction. If it were based on a real story, I don't think my heart could bear it.  Me constantly reminding myself that it's just a drama, is the only thing that is keeping me from breaking down altogether........but if it is just a drama, then why do Kobori and Ang feel so real to me? It's gotten to a point where I can't even talk about them to my friend, who's also watching this, without crying.  

 

[roselovesice]

Hahha Even if it's a drama, I still compare it to real life. I don't know if that's good or not but like WHAT IF this did really happen to someone in reality? Probably not exactly alike but similar. A lot of soldiers do leave behind their wife plus kids and dies due to war. Anyhoo, It still breaks my heart regardless. 
I've complaining to my sisters and friend about how depress I am about the ending and just this lakorn in general. They will never be able to understand how it really feels like to lose Kobo-Bie. lol I've been depress for so long now. I don't know how long this depression is going to last. I think it's time I go see my personal school counselor about this. 555 
 
By the way, Thanks Ceci for the translation. That was such a touching scene. It was touching because she started crying tears of joy. It made you realize how excited she was that she also wanted to share that news and happiness with her husband, Kobori. Too bad it didn't turn out the way she wanted. Too bad it wasn't a good time for Kobori and Ang as well. :weep:  Why is this lakorn so sad?! :cry1: 555
 
Also, I wonder when Bie the Star is gonna go to New York. Hopefully soon. I want to go see him! Hoping to go to NY right after the semester ends, which is in about 14 days! Darn excited! Besides, I only get to pay $35!! lol But yes, I want to see Bie the Star.

 

[cikna]

Correct me if I'm wrong; I always thought it was love at first sight for Kobori and as for Ang, her love for Kobori was developed bit by bit until she realised she was helplessly in love with him. But someone wrote that, in the novel, before Kobori died, Ang confessed that she fell for his smile and playfulness when they met for the 1st time. but she had to hide those feelings because of the promise she made to Vanus. So, now, what I understand is that, it was love at first sight for both of them! (that's soooo cute! )
 
the attraction between them was so strong and their chemistry despite their differences (race/culture/beliefs) was so overwhelming, without them realising it, they kept "coming back" to each other. there's this belief in Malay culture, if you hate something with all your heart and mind and you keep saying it verbally, over and over again, it's going to be like a prayer but the outcome would be the opposite. Meaning, you will receive what you initially don't want to get. i guess, i see "1st hand" example in ang. she hates the japanese with every fibre of her human being. but never has she expected that she will fell hard in a man of that race. now, carrying kobori's child, not only does she crave for japanese food and admire japanese painting/poem, she also craves for and admire a japanese man - her husband Kobori! :drools:  Lesson to be learnt: don't hate something so much or keep saying you hate it to the core because it may become what you can't live without!
 
also, don't u all think there's an element of mystique that has brought this two ill-fated lovers together? the firefly and the music. it was the firefly that awakens kobori senses (ep 1 or 2) which leads him to Ang's house and he hears her beautiful music being played. and it was the sound of kobori's japanese guitar that complements the sound of ang's musical instrument (i don't know what it is called). their music, to me, was like courtship between them, sending love melodies to each other, bringing them closer to one another

 

[Dreamlove]

Hahha Even if it's a drama, I still compare it to real life. I don't know if that's good or not but like WHAT IF this did really happen to someone in reality? Probably not exactly alike but similar. A lot of soldiers do leave behind their wife plus kids and dies due to war.

I was watching this variety show called Fan Pan Tae and there was a story written and it's true just like similar to Koo Kum. I don't now what the novel is called, but it's written by a Japanese writer. The Japanese writer went and talk with the Thai women that married the Japanese soldier. The Japanese soldier that she married died during the war, this novel is based on a true story and is similar to Koo Kum, but not exactly. Koo Kum is also popular in Japanese, there was a Japanese writer that took the story Koo Kum that was written in Thai and translated into Japanese.

 

[Bieluvr]

That is really sad to know, Now I'm crying like crazy, just having to think that there is a truth to Koo Gum, which i know there is eversince the beginning.

 

[looksy]

Correct me if I'm wrong; I always thought it was love at first sight for Kobori and as for Ang, her love for Kobori was developed bit by bit until she realised she was helplessly in love with him. But someone wrote that, in the novel, before Kobori died, Ang confessed that she fell for his smile and playfulness when they met for the 1st time. but she had to hide those feelings because of the promise she made to Vanus. So, now, what I understand is that, it was love at first sight for both of them! (that's soooo cute! )

 
Yeah, it seems Kobori left a big impression on Ang after their first meet as well. The attraction was there and her heart couldn't help skipping a few beats for Kobori. Of course, her head at the time just disregarded what her heart felt and translated this foreign feeling as her hate for this foreign man.
 

I was watching this variety show called Fan Pan Tae and there was a story written and it's true just like similar to Koo Kum. I don't now what the novel is called, but it's written by a Japanese writer. The Japanese writer went and talk with the Thai women that married the Japanese soldier. The Japanese soldier that she married died during the war, this novel is based on a true story and is similar to Koo Kum, but not exactly....

 
No doubt there were many women like Ang who fell in love with the Japanese soldiers and lost them during the war. And although Koo Kum is a work of fiction, we all know that most fiction arise from events based on real life.
 
For me, why Koo Kum/Kobori and Ang's love story is so unbearably sad is not the fact that Kobori died. I've read/watched many tragic stories, but the pain doesn't linger for me the way this story does. For me, the unbearable sadness is in the fact that their time together was in pure torture and that Kobori did not know how Ang truly felt until the day he died. Ang, having fallen for him, couldn't feel free to accept and return his love. Kobori, giving all of himself to her, but always felt his love was one sided. Their time together was brief, but not as brief as Romeo & Juliet or Jack & Rose from "Titanic".......but Romeo & Juliet and Jack & Rose were sure of their love for one another.........so even though their time together was brief, but they spent every brief moment satisfied fighting together for their love.............By the time Ang could admit it to herself that it's Kobori she could not live without, it was too late......by the time Kobori found out that it was him that she had harbored deep inside her heart, it was too late.........If only Kobori was ever 100% sure that Ang loved him, it wouldn't be this sad to me......he found out the truth only minutes before his death and Ang will regret not telling him sooner for the rest of her life.... this is what makes my heart ache so much for them.

 

[NdA]

Visiting Noona’s house..and they talk about koo gum I guess. LOL that two guys really fun joking around (at 23.54)..freely teasing Noona
 
http://youtu.be/q-aAHBmxViw
please skip the ads..it was so annoying.

 

[cikna]

Visiting Noona’s house..and they talk about koo gum I guess. LOL that two guys really fun joking around (at 23.54)..freely teasing Noona
 
http://youtu.be/q-aAHBmxViw
please skip the ads..it was so annoying.

thanks Nda for the link. I'm liking noona, more and more. It's cute and funny to see her dressed one of the hosts in women's dress and how she had this attitude "if u can't beat them, join them" when the hosts "ransacked" her bedroom. another favourite part is when the hosts teased her about her weight. i think she said her weight on tv and regretted after that. correct me if i'm wrong, did she say she was 50kg? i personally admire women who stays healthy but not "forcing" herself to stay thin. noona, to me, is not those typical actresses who are obsessed with their weight and tend to stay skinny. in fact, she embraced her body as it is and is comfortable with it. I think women with "some meat" on them are more empowering and inspiring because most of the women in the world are in that category. it feels real.
i find it amusing, because like many other women out there, she's not afraid to to eat! i find it funny that she was the 1st one to take a bite of her dish. usually, in a show, the guest would let the hosts taste it first. then, when they present her with various cakes, u can see her face glow and she just didn't care and took a bite almost in instant.
you go girl!

 

[cecilia]

Real fan of KOO GUM trivia show:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o4LjB7zIBHg
Credit: CutelybearENTV1

 

[NdA]

Welcome @Cikna..Noona had captured my heart with her bubbly & carefree personality..I loved she be herself, most of videos she was in..her personality always be the same. As I know artists tend to be hypocrite which an attitude I loathe so much, look at most of our Malaysian artists..their hypocrisy, gosh..so irritating. Not that I want to judge Thai’s artists based on Malaysian artists attitude..but isn’t the entertainment industry scenario not much different not matter where it take places..
 
@Cikna, Noona may not obsessed with her weight but she did obsessed with her height..I find it funny when she did tiptoeing. 

I’m laughing hard at part wherein the two naughty hosts took out her “small clothes”..if I’m not mistaken. Noona’s hysterically scream was priceless..she should hide her “small clothes” beforehand. I’ve been repeated that part about fourth/fifth times. 

 

[cikna]

I had the entire weekend dedicated to KhuKam / Koogum~. I watched and re-watched my favourite episodes over and over again. As the ending is nearing, my mind has begun its denial state! Don't know how I'm going to survive the ending. For the time being, I compiled some of my favourite scenes and turned them into not one, but two videos! Hehehehe... :whistle: 
I chose one song, "It's Your Love", originally sung by Tim McGraw who dedicated to his wife when she was pregnant with their first child. I thought the song would be befitting our to beloved lovers who is expecting a child of their own even though Kobori would not get to see his child... :cry1:.
The first version is the female version (sung by She Moves), through Ang's perspective whereas the second version is of course, the male version (sung by Gil Ofarim), through Kobori's eyes. Hope you all find it enjoyable.. :yes: 
 
Female Version:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xjDQqJ_4d74
 
Male Version:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yX1l95KqPag

 

[Miley19]

I see some pic on the scene kob die and ang get kob last kiss on the lip :'( that last kiss will be forever for kob and ang.

 

[cecilia]

Cikna, these two mvs are so beautiful . .. i felt their love through my heart .. it's like a big stab hit my chest harshly.  you're making it extremely harder for me to not cry in the two final ending episode T_____TTTTT .. Monday is tomorrow -- i don't know how i'm going to pull all the courage to watch finale on Tuesday live TTTTT_____T

 

[Dreamlove]

I'm not ready for the last 2 episode, just thinking about it is making me cry, sad, and depress already. There were some spoiled scenes of the ending from The Star 9 special and it's super depressing and painful, it got me crying harder and harder. Tomorrow in Nok Rob they're goona talk about the end of Koo Kum and interviewing Bie and Noona about the ending. Just watching all the spoiled scenes is making me cry already so when it gets to episode 23 and 24 I'm totally going to cry my hearts out.

 

[cecilia]

Watching old clip of Bie -- These four p'eks are hilarious!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cr3enMZHFF8
 
My heart is not leaving me in peace .. i'm crying again after seeing this TTTT_____T
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hL0DyIHeS6A

*During bombing hideaway w/her mom/granny
 
Ang: Your dad is probably waiting for me at home .. if I see him, I'll let him know, dear (She's talking to her child) .. OH, the thought of not having him there at her house - waiting to escort her to hide away in such bombing time TTT____TTT)

 

[roselovesice]

foeanfoawnfowanfja;wnfuiabguiabfkasnfjklsandfilwas!!! 

TTTTTT____________________________________________________________________________TTTTTT
 
This is it. I cannot do it. I just can't!!! It's too heartbreaking!!!!!!! It's so sad knowing that Kobori won't be at home waiting for her and the family. It's sad yet extremely touching knowing that Ang is calling Kobori "father/daddy" to both her and the baby. Darn. Why must this version be so darn good?!?!?! 
How am I ever going to recover from this? Recover from this tragic ending? I'm going to keep questioning myself and to everyone as to why Kobori has to die. This is going to suck big time. Besides, I can't even watch the last 2 episodes until who knows what time the next two day. I want to witness the ending early, when it's airing live. This is going to drain my energy. I'm already crying just thinking about it.  :cry:  :cry1:
 
By the way, thanks Ceci. 

 

[cecilia]

it's touching that she's constantly refer to Kobori as a father .. or that when she talks to her child, she always bring up 'YOUR DAD' into the whole conversation (the child really did bind them together like Ang said) It made her long for him and yearn for his love more than ever ..
 
Lik you said, Rose, it created this fulfillment in happiness but yet there's an empty spot somewhere in this whole picture -- i understand p'San didn't want to do this (interest to see how he'll wrap it up) but as of right now ... i'm 99% happy and 1% sad T_T
 
I find it really sad to see her scaring her life away at the mere thought that something could go wrong with her husband ... last time she called for the spirits to protect him and now she's telling her child that things will be okay to reassurance her own feeling that  daddy will be there to protect mommy ..
 
*i need more than one bucket -- this is too sad TTTT_____TTTTT .. i swore .. by Monday .. T are no longer murder but 'dash' b/c i'll be blind from crying too much -______TTTT

 

[Miley19]

We are not really to see the end scene but it look we already in there. I want to yell kobori........ name loud n long, I think now Im ready to cry cuz Couple day on last week my eyes keep having tear drop. But I'm not really to see the sad scene for kob I want him to see his baby grow up first or stay till his see the grandson/granddaughter from his son. Kobori......................

 

[looksy]

I'm not ready for the ending either. This has got to be the gloomiest weekend for us Koo Gum-ers. 
 
Awe, sadly for us, we never did get another hot kiss that we all wanted for Kobori and Ang. We will have to settle for bittersweet kisses instead. I hope Ang will smother him with lots of farewell kisses. Knowing how brave Kobori will be and how much he loves his Hediko, I would imagine him hearing Ang say "I love you" in Japanese to him could be the happiest moment in his life. 
 
I don't know how my poor heart will take it when his precious spirit leaves Ang as he draws his last breath............it's all too sad......I'm crying just typing all of this..........***continues to tell self, "IT'S JUST A DRAMA!!!"***.....but if it's just a drama, then why does it hurt so MUCH?!
 

credti: NoonaFanClub @ facebook

 

[roselovesice]

I couldn't agree more ladies. I've been listening to the OST 24/7 and it's not making anything better. 555 
I don't know if it's a good idea to watch the ending during my New Testament class on Tuesday. I'm afraid I might start crying and screaming in the middle of class. HAHA. But, I'll give it a try. It's worth it, I think. lol  :scratchchin:
Anyhoo, oh bittersweet kisses. Those are painful to watch especially for Koo Gum.  :teary:  I'm just going to pray and hope that their next lakorn together would be super duper romantic and quite different. I don't know if I want their roles to be the opposite where Kobori is mean and Ang is nice. I'm up for anything actually. Definitely hate drama but if there has to be any, it'll be okay. It just have to be necessary. But wait, they can always make another Koo Gum version BUT with a different ending, happy ending, you know..?   That, I don't mind at all. I love seeing Bie play this kind of character. It's super charming, adorable, silly, and attractive. I would love to see him wear uniforms/suits 24/7, especially when he's wearing his green Japanese uniforms. He inspired me to want to marry an army guy. Hahha!    Just kidding. Well it's partially true but I don't want anyone else other than Kobo-Bie.  :wub: Or make a Ruk Jub Jai movie/lakorn version. I think it's time to go protest. I didn't get to see the musical and they're not offering us any DVD version of it anytime soon. Therefore, I believe I deserve a movie/lakorn version. 555 I want a lakorn version actually. It'll be more longer and they'll probably offer us more romantic, love scenes. ervie:  lol
 
By the way, does anyone know when Bie is going to New York?  :scratchhead2:
 
 
OHEMGEEEEEE!! This totally reminds me of Kobori and Angsumalin except it's the opposite. LOLOLOL It's hilariously cute and funny!!