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maimyang

wishing on the same star, looking at the same moon
Yep kan’s married with two children I believe. oh my. Don’t do stuff just cuz others do it and/or say to do it. Do intense research and be smart. We all have our free will and choices, but even celebrities don’t know everything and/or aren’t all good ppl. Maybe these celebrities didn’t know, or maybe they knew what they were involved in which they should be responsible for.
 
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maimyang

wishing on the same star, looking at the same moon
this is sad how ppl use their influence for bad. There’s that quote with great power comes great responsibility. eventually , if your motives aren’t good, you will be found out.
 

rae

sarNie Adult
All of them are refused bail and are going to jail. The prime minister of Thailand has asked for a thorough investigation of this case.

The owner of one31, Boy, has said that Min and Sam's currently airing lakorn will not be taken off air because it would be a waste of everyone's efforts.
Netizens and reporters are digging up pics of Kan's lavish lifestyle. From his mansion to his collection of vintage cars and Patek Philippe watches.
 

jeanie1

sarNie Adult
I'd like to think the Min/Kan/Sam didn't know or maybe they didn't know and also didn't care? It is reasonable to me that celebs who sign on as presenters don't bother digging into the business practices. Even if they did, its not like shady businesses are open about their shadiness so how would they know? But maybe a lesson for all to be less money-focused and be more picky.

Of course I think those 3 signed on with some management titles so they should at least know better that a management position means something different from presenter, even if they are fake titles.
 

maimyang

wishing on the same star, looking at the same moon
I read that what were being sold were “facial creams, coffee, and collagen.” don’t fully understand the scam, but maybe the employees weren’t getting paid ?
 

byebye

sarNie OldFart
Thought Sam was pretty much established in life. He has been around for so long and made a good name for himself, so why tangled up in something like this? All that work from your back in the days is pretty much gone. Min and Kan will probably disappear from the ET world. It is hard to come back from something like this because it's huge.
 

rae

sarNie Adult
The business is basically a mlm or pyramid scheme. They recruit people as resellers for their products which nobody is buying, and the resellers are left with their savings gone or go into debt.

Kan, Min, and Sam are in trouble because they were at least actively recruiting. The company has said that Min is an investor in the past so who knows how much involvement they have.
 

maimyang

wishing on the same star, looking at the same moon
The business is basically a mlm or pyramid scheme. They recruit people as resellers for their products which nobody is buying, and the resellers are left with their savings gone or go into debt.

Kan, Min, and Sam are in trouble because they were at least actively recruiting. The company has said that Min is an investor in the past so who knows how much involvement they have.
horrible,
Guess it’s bye to their careers.
 

jeanie1

sarNie Adult
Its a multilevel marketing (MLM) business and sell beauty and health supplements, similar to Amway if that sounds familiar. Or some insurance companies are like that. There's always a thin line between MLM (legal) and pyramid schemes (illegal). Anyway it sounds likes this CEO was just dumb. To be a legal MLM you have to register your business as an MLM to start with. This dude registered his business as something else, and that is where he went wrong. So now essentially it's counted as running a pyramid/fraud. If he had just registered his business as an MLM, everything would've been fine. Oh and you also can't require that they recruit people. The people can go out and recruit, you can't just put it down on contract that they have to do so. He couldn't find a competent lawyer that could've told him all of this?

The whole business model is shady, legal or not, but I also feel like people should know better too. You go to an arena with 10,000 other people all selling the same thing and somehow think you're ALL going to get rich?? It's not even selling a daily essential that everyone needs but face cream? Unless the person uses up a big jar of face cream every day, there's got to be some level of willful ignorance going on.
 

rae

sarNie Adult
Min's lawyer talked to the press about her first night in jail. She barely ate because she has stomach problems, and she is under a lot of stress right now because she's still getting used to her new environment. She and the others are not allowed to see family yet, only their lawyers. They're all wearing prison uniforms now although they haven't cut their hair yet.
 

WeirFany

sarNie Adult
Dang even too much pride to post bail and rather stay in jail is crazy.

Ehh I think people want to think they didn't know but I'm sure Min/Sam/Kan knew to an extent. You don't be so involved as a recruiter/investor/promoter unless you're aware of how much benefits you're reaping. They had to either been shown the products or not shown it at all but saw the money rolling in and didn't care.

Yes, ppl can the ones who are scammed has free will but like many many others all around the world--if your watch the rich get rich and they tell you this is a good investment, you may think okay if it is working for them, why wouldn't it work for me? That's why scams exist. For the rich to get richer and the poor to stay poorer. It's sad indeed and I hope they face consequences.

Look at America, and the state of its politics and cult that we know as Maga. You have this nepo rich orange man taking his believers that a is happening bc of x, y, and z... and they are taking it as the truth. He's got ppl believing that the democratic party can control hurricanes.... when you got a following and use it to influence those who follow you, it won't be hard for them to take your "advice".
 

byebye

sarNie OldFart
Dang even too much pride to post bail and rather stay in jail is crazy.

Ehh I think people want to think they didn't know but I'm sure Min/Sam/Kan knew to an extent. You don't be so involved as a recruiter/investor/promoter unless you're aware of how much benefits you're reaping. They had to either been shown the products or not shown it at all but saw the money rolling in and didn't care.

Yes, ppl can the ones who are scammed has free will but like many many others all around the world--if your watch the rich get rich and they tell you this is a good investment, you may think okay if it is working for them, why wouldn't it work for me? That's why scams exist. For the rich to get richer and the poor to stay poorer. It's sad indeed and I hope they face consequences.

Look at America, and the state of its politics and cult that we know as Maga. You have this nepo rich orange man taking his believers that a is happening bc of x, y, and z... and they are taking it as the truth. He's got ppl believing that the democratic party can control hurricanes.... when you got a following and use it to influence those who follow you, it won't be hard for them to take your "advice".
American politics are different. Both sides has their level of crazies. Trump for all his richness, he isn't a true politician. I don't understand how it's a cult if one voted for him? Maga is just like the ones on the left, that vote blue no matter who. Anyway, politics in any country is messy.

As for as this case, it is wild. Fame can lift you up and can also take you down.
 

neenavaj

sarNie Adult
American politics are different. Both sides has their level of crazies. Trump for all his richness, he isn't a true politician. I don't understand how it's a cult if one voted for him? Maga is just like the ones on the left, that vote blue no matter who. Anyway, politics in any country is messy.

As for as this case, it is wild. Fame can lift you up and can also take you down.
MAGA is a cult. There is no denying that. The left aren't the ones who tried to take down the capital even when Trump won in 2016. They protest but they didn't try to kill people at the capital. Peaceful transition of power have existed in America until the Trump cult started.

I get why some think Thai celebs are power hungry but its like this all around the world. Its just done in different ways. America has their fair share of celebs scheming people, many have side hustles that get them in trouble. Many Chinese celebs enjoy tax evasion. It happens and I am glad Thailand's government stepped in but I can't harshly say only Thai celebs are this power hungry when its been happening for decades in America and other parts of the world where there are celebrities or business owners. Greed exists in every continent.
 
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byebye

sarNie OldFart
MAGA is a cult. There is no denying that. The left aren't the ones who tried to take down the capital even when Trump won in 2016. They protest but they didn't try to kill people at the capital. Peaceful transition of power have existed in America until the Trump cult started.

I get why some think Thai celebs are power hungry but its like this all around the world. Its just done in different ways. America has their fair share of celebs scheming people, many have side hustles that get them in trouble. Many Chinese celebs enjoy tax evasion. It happens and I am glad Thailand's government stepped in but I can't harshly say only Thai celebs are this power hungry when its been happening for decades in America and other parts of the world where there are celebrities or business owners. Greed exists in every continent.
We have to agreed to disagree. I don't believe it is. Politics is extremely messy.

Maybe I don't follow a lot of the other industries, but I always wondered just how thai celebrities can take on so many brands at the same time. American celebrities can do some crazy stuff, but they do get paid handsomely for their work. While thai celebrities doesn't make as much and they have to make extra incomes however they can.
 

neenavaj

sarNie Adult
We have to agreed to disagree. I don't believe it is. Politics is extremely messy.

Maybe I don't follow a lot of the other industries, but I always wondered just how thai celebrities can take on so many brands at the same time. American celebrities can do some crazy stuff, but they do get paid handsomely for their work. While thai celebrities doesn't make as much and they have to make extra incomes however they can.
Yes, don't believe in the things you know happened. :) Anyway, American celebs are as greedy as any other Thai celeb there is. They get paid more because, well, its America. There is nothing wrong with working to make a living but when you get into trouble, know the consequences, simple as that. Min, Paul and Kan are going to be punished and they should prepare themselves for it.
 

WeirFany

sarNie Adult
@byebye I am someone who is political so I can really get into it but I won't too deeply. Vote blue, no matter who is an annoying phrase but it's the idea to vote to keep democracy. But maga is a cult, they're not true Republicans if you know any true Republicans, Trump is not it. By definition, a cult is any misplaced or excessive admiration for a person or thing. His followers don't truly care about America. They care about white supremacy and only about Trump. Rioting and storming the capital...a result of that misplaced energy for him instead. But again, I won't go into it bc it's not the place for it.

Lol my intentions were only to compare how easy it is to lead your followers into believing anything which glitzy celebrities like Min can easily do. Do I think she meant intentional harm? No. But do I think she was aware to a degree that it was possibly just a scam, heck yes. I just don't think she was thinking that the amount of ppl whose livelihood that was going to affected was doing to be this massive. I just hope this people are able to get some degree of restitution back even if it's 5% of it
 

jeanie1

sarNie Adult
I think the 3 celebs knew it was an "MLM" and is questionable like all MLMs are but since its a legal/accepted type of business they probably didn't dig into it more. I don't think they knew the CEO was running it illegally. Did they know how much damage it would lead to? Some of the stories about people mortgaging their lives and first born to basically sell face cream and health supplements sound a bit crazy. Would it have made a difference to them whether it is scamming people out of their lunch money vs their entire life savings? That I don't know

Yes, ppl can the ones who are scammed has free will but like many many others all around the world--if your watch the rich get rich and they tell you this is a good investment, you may think okay if it is working for them, why wouldn't it work for me? That's why scams exist. For the rich to get richer and the poor to stay poorer. It's sad indeed and I hope they face consequences.
I'd be thinking why is this random person sharing the secret sauce with me and want me to get rich too? lol.

That's the thing about pyramid schemes. Where do you draw the line between the scammed or not? Like the ones near the top of the "pyramid" or even middle, they made a ton of money by recruiting a lot of people under them. Did they not scam the people they recruited? Some news said 2 of the women who claimed to be "victims" made millions (in baht) monthly, from recruiting a lot of people to be under them but they'll probably skate. If you're at the bottom or didn't have any recruits, I say that is clear enough but the others? Pyramid schemes work in the first place because there are people who are willing to go out and recruit others.
 

rae

sarNie Adult
So far the authorities have seized around 220 million baht from the 18 people that have been arrested. It includes cars, gold, electronics, and property deeds etc.

Kan has 1 Mercedes, 1 Porsche, 1 Ford Mustang, 1 Kia, 1 iPad mini, and various products of the company seized totaling to 17 million baht.

Sam has 1 electronic device seized which was a total of 20,000 baht.

Min has an LV bag seized which was a total of 125,000 baht.

Currently Kan and Min's savings and investment accounts are being requested by the authorities to be additionally seized totaling to around 48 million baht.

This amount is just what they have so far, the total will probably be more as the investigation goes on.
 
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