Lao Flag
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champthong
sarNie Hatchling
My favorite flag is the royal flag (I can't share with you guys why)! Follow by the three headed elephants.
champthong
sarNie Hatchling
Communist today is not as bad as back then communist (I-nong). It is just a name...BE PROUD OF YOUR COUNTRY and move forward!
Today, Laos P.D.R is more of a socialist country...not really a communist anymore...
CTR
The Realist guy here period
I'm proud of my people and heritage but strongly dislike the Communist regime. There is a different. Just like how my father swan across the Mekong River and was shotted at. Just like how some of our parents served in the courts of the King of Laos.
jensen
sarNie Fansubber
i dunno if u guys noticed in Laos, above the roofs of houses, they like showing two flags, the current one with the blue band symbolizing the Mekong River and the prosperity, the white cercle symbolizes the reunification of the two lao regions separed by the Mekong river and the red bands representing the blood that lao people poured for the motherland. With the current flag, there's a red flag too with a hammer and a sickle as a symbol of the communism.
here it is :
and both :
I've seen some t shirts in shops, with the symbols of a hammer and a sickle.
* For ppl interested, here is a summary (well long haha) of the history of Laos, credited to my master thesis.
The history of Laos is very long and complex, and has been in the middle of fights baited between various kingdoms wanting to seize the country, because Laos was a "land in between" and stands up at the region crossroads, and has been a bridge between his neighbours and an arena in which they and their allies have interfered, so it was very envied.
But before that, Laos are descendents of Thai tribes and have been pushed from Yunnan in the 13th century, and went to the Khmer Empire. And later, the Lao Kingdom (called "Laan Xaang Hom Khaow" = the million elephants and the white parasol) has been founded by Chao Fa Ngoum. He is the one who initiated lao people to the Buddhism Theravada and brought to the kingdom, a lot of Khmer civilization.
The Laan Xaang waged a few wars with the Khmer, Burmese, Vietnamese, and Thai in the 17th, and later, cos of some internal dissensions, Laan Xaang has been cut in two kingdoms : In the North with Luang Prabang and Vientiane in the South. Both kingdoms quarrelled a lot of times and were overrun by their neighbours.
Later, in the 19th, the two kingdoms were under the siamese power, and still claimed and wanted by the Annam (or Vietnam). And then appeared the French in the kingdoms, which 'forced' undirectly the kingdoms to accept the French protectorate to stop the ceaseless fights of its neighbours to own it.
During WW II, The Japanese occupied Laos, and persuaded the king of Luang Phabang to declare the country's independence, but France re established its domination in 1946 n recognized the King as a constitutional monarch for the country. A measure of self government has been established n Laos was ruled as a state with semi autonomy within the French Union. In 1951, the Prince Souphanouvong (or called the Red Prince for his communist tendancy) created the Pathet Lao (the lao country/patry), a communist laotian nationalist movement in the North of Vietnam. In Samneua (North Laos) then, a government were established.
After that period, the "new" country faced a lot of civil wars, cos of incursions fo the Pathet Lao guerillas supported by the Viet Minh and went occupying some parts of the country. Both parts, tried to find agreements with the Geneva Conference of 1954, which worked for a short time and then the coalition broke n they both went back to the hostilities again.
Later, in 1960, was the beginning of coups between three opposite parts in the country : rightists, neutralists n communists. Only the right government of Chao Boun Oum were recognized and accepted by the USA. The neutralists n communists leaded half of the country and a cease-fire has been found. A government of coalition with all the opposite factions were established under Souvanna Phouma, but failed cos of they disagreed about the integration of the three military forces and the Pathet Lao troops were back in the conflicts by controlling the North n the East.
Laos role during the Vietnam War : the Pathet Lao troops were quiet when the North Vietnam was under bombs, but became offensive again later. Laos became the theatre where a part of the war happened, cos the south vietnamese troops wanted to cut the Ho Chi Minh trail, so it made the north vietnamese intervened in Laos too n also the US bombardments.
During that period, the USA provided an economic help to Laos, and also guns for the Hmong people. At the same time, The Pathet Lao took control of the major part of Laos, and in 1973, an agreement was fond between the factions.
Following his communist neighbours who won the war, the Pathet Lao abolished the monarchy n established a Republic with Chao Souphanouvong as the President. Laos was very dependent on Vietnam for economy n military force n they signed a friendship treaty for 25 years.
Now the country gave up on the communism to open up more to the Capitalism but by keeping a tight control in Politic. But there a lot of steps for Laos to do to make the country developed.
To resume, it was more a battle between three brothers (half bros) who were from different factions and fought for having the country.
here it is :
and both :
I've seen some t shirts in shops, with the symbols of a hammer and a sickle.
* For ppl interested, here is a summary (well long haha) of the history of Laos, credited to my master thesis.
The history of Laos is very long and complex, and has been in the middle of fights baited between various kingdoms wanting to seize the country, because Laos was a "land in between" and stands up at the region crossroads, and has been a bridge between his neighbours and an arena in which they and their allies have interfered, so it was very envied.
But before that, Laos are descendents of Thai tribes and have been pushed from Yunnan in the 13th century, and went to the Khmer Empire. And later, the Lao Kingdom (called "Laan Xaang Hom Khaow" = the million elephants and the white parasol) has been founded by Chao Fa Ngoum. He is the one who initiated lao people to the Buddhism Theravada and brought to the kingdom, a lot of Khmer civilization.
The Laan Xaang waged a few wars with the Khmer, Burmese, Vietnamese, and Thai in the 17th, and later, cos of some internal dissensions, Laan Xaang has been cut in two kingdoms : In the North with Luang Prabang and Vientiane in the South. Both kingdoms quarrelled a lot of times and were overrun by their neighbours.
Later, in the 19th, the two kingdoms were under the siamese power, and still claimed and wanted by the Annam (or Vietnam). And then appeared the French in the kingdoms, which 'forced' undirectly the kingdoms to accept the French protectorate to stop the ceaseless fights of its neighbours to own it.
During WW II, The Japanese occupied Laos, and persuaded the king of Luang Phabang to declare the country's independence, but France re established its domination in 1946 n recognized the King as a constitutional monarch for the country. A measure of self government has been established n Laos was ruled as a state with semi autonomy within the French Union. In 1951, the Prince Souphanouvong (or called the Red Prince for his communist tendancy) created the Pathet Lao (the lao country/patry), a communist laotian nationalist movement in the North of Vietnam. In Samneua (North Laos) then, a government were established.
After that period, the "new" country faced a lot of civil wars, cos of incursions fo the Pathet Lao guerillas supported by the Viet Minh and went occupying some parts of the country. Both parts, tried to find agreements with the Geneva Conference of 1954, which worked for a short time and then the coalition broke n they both went back to the hostilities again.
Later, in 1960, was the beginning of coups between three opposite parts in the country : rightists, neutralists n communists. Only the right government of Chao Boun Oum were recognized and accepted by the USA. The neutralists n communists leaded half of the country and a cease-fire has been found. A government of coalition with all the opposite factions were established under Souvanna Phouma, but failed cos of they disagreed about the integration of the three military forces and the Pathet Lao troops were back in the conflicts by controlling the North n the East.
Laos role during the Vietnam War : the Pathet Lao troops were quiet when the North Vietnam was under bombs, but became offensive again later. Laos became the theatre where a part of the war happened, cos the south vietnamese troops wanted to cut the Ho Chi Minh trail, so it made the north vietnamese intervened in Laos too n also the US bombardments.
During that period, the USA provided an economic help to Laos, and also guns for the Hmong people. At the same time, The Pathet Lao took control of the major part of Laos, and in 1973, an agreement was fond between the factions.
Following his communist neighbours who won the war, the Pathet Lao abolished the monarchy n established a Republic with Chao Souphanouvong as the President. Laos was very dependent on Vietnam for economy n military force n they signed a friendship treaty for 25 years.
Now the country gave up on the communism to open up more to the Capitalism but by keeping a tight control in Politic. But there a lot of steps for Laos to do to make the country developed.
To resume, it was more a battle between three brothers (half bros) who were from different factions and fought for having the country.
Jensen..thanks for such a great summary..I knew a little about how we (the country of Laos) became a communist country, but you definitely have filled in the gaps.. Out of curiosity, how much do you know about Muang Lao.. I am trying to find out more by reading books and constantly checking the news online..
champthong
sarNie Hatchling
champthong
sarNie Hatchling
Well, there are 3 kingdoms, thus each elephant can represent each kingdom and the white parasol is to unified 3 kingdoms together. Furthermore, the 3 headed elephants are the symbol of greatness, wisdom and a vehicle.
marduk
Sarnie Clown!
I agree with the correction but I kinda found the second comment unnecessary. But then again, it is your opinion.
noungning
Heartless
This brings a question up, if you do not learn from writings of another, how do you possibly learn? Experience? Verbal communication? And are you to believe 100% that someone is actually telling you the truth? Eh, this is life, and people loves to brag.
It's nonsense, when you say this is wrong, this is right. If you literally sat throughout the whole fights and changes throughout the 10s or 100s of years, then I will become a believer. Many things you read in textbooks nowadays are falsely misinterpreted into things that probably never happened. Right, if you don't know the truth, you shouldn't write about it, because it's not even worth being read right? Well, same goes for my point of view to what you've been preaching. How much of this have you lived through to write essays and paragraphs after paragraphs about? Hmmm I'm sure you're probably not 100 years old and have lived through the situations. So please do tell me, where did you learn all of this?
jensen
sarNie Fansubber
Thank you for the corrections Champ...My bad, how did i forget Champassak when i typed that...
Where did you see thesis papers or others with inaccurate information? Did you read those papers? How did you know it was wrong? who doesn't want to continue reading? Are u talking about what is typed here? If it makes individuals who have great knowledge in such subject matter, don't wanna read....Well i'm sorry....I have a low education n still an amateur. All i got there are based on books, interviews with old political people in Laos n here...and i know that's not 100% right....Me weren't born that time all those things happened...Not like some people.
I have the same question as Ning, where did u learn all those stuff? can u share ur great knowledge with us, cos u seem to be a specialist of that region, that would be interesting to learn more from you. That would help dumb people like me to be smarter lol.
dfemc
sarNie Adult
ish all good. history is rarely an accurate account of much, for, it still has it's subjectivity. history is all about learning about a past that usually exists before us. so it's normal that it becomes a construction based on collective memory, and even then, u still question and wonder how true it all is.
thnx for sharing that summary with us Jensen. though simplistic, it's a great overview. ur intentions were for it to be brief yet explanatory, so it's understandable
thnx for sharing that summary with us Jensen. though simplistic, it's a great overview. ur intentions were for it to be brief yet explanatory, so it's understandable
nophankh
sarNie Adult
Personally, I don't care about the design or color or anything about the flag.
I know there is a lot of history.
I wouldn't care if it was a stupid white flag with a smiley face in the center.
I'm more concern with the pathetic current.
I'm disappointed with the lack of responsible in Laos.
Seriously, our neighbors are progressing, but we're lagging behind.
Laos has a serious Yaba problem, other drug trafficking problems, in the dumps economy, malnourishment, pathetic education systems, governmental corruption, etc., etc.
Everything else changes and improves, i don't care if they keep the current flag as the national symbol.
I'm very proud to be Lao and at the same time I'm disappointed, not because of my heritage, but at the political landscape.
I know there is a lot of history.
I wouldn't care if it was a stupid white flag with a smiley face in the center.
I'm more concern with the pathetic current.
I'm disappointed with the lack of responsible in Laos.
Seriously, our neighbors are progressing, but we're lagging behind.
Laos has a serious Yaba problem, other drug trafficking problems, in the dumps economy, malnourishment, pathetic education systems, governmental corruption, etc., etc.
Everything else changes and improves, i don't care if they keep the current flag as the national symbol.
I'm very proud to be Lao and at the same time I'm disappointed, not because of my heritage, but at the political landscape.
